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re: Dudes dropping out of dating game.

Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:00 pm to
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The issue with “lock ‘em down early” is that men tend to put off marriage until they are financially stable enough for it.


I see two common waves: The ones that get a serious girlfriend in college are married to them within a year of graduating. Then the next wave is 3-5 years later when the still single ones meet a girl after college.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:02 pm to
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Most women probably care at least a little bit and with everything else being equal the taller guy will get the first look


On behalf of tall guys everywhere let me say this isn’t the secret weapon it’s being played out to be. I’m 6’5 and did all right but it’s not like hot women were throwing themselves at me even in my prime.

I’d say confidence, sense of humor, some level of success and not appearing desperate are more important than height. Women can sniff out desperation and lack of self confidence a mile away.

Of course this never comes to play if you’re just swiping and not interacting with them face to face.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:13 pm to
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I think this is total BS. Most women want a guy taller than them. That’s been true forever. But since most men are taller than most women, height doesn’t matter all that much. Sure women would choose taller all other things being equal, but height is less important than how cute a guy is, confidence, his job prospects, how funny he is, how kind he is, etc.


This is true I’d say in general, but the 6ft meme is real with american women on dating apps specifically.

Fwiw, I’m 5’10 and my girlfriend is taller than me at 5’11. I’ve never had too much trouble because I’m just average in height. Not tall, not too short.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27362 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:15 pm to
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there won't be much interest in a normal 25 year making that little money


$60k is a very good salary for a recent college grad. The idea that it's not is part of the problem.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:23 pm to
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Wouldn't say the height thing is total BS. It's a factor, like anything else. Some women put a lot of emphasis on it (I've seen dating profiles that say don't message if you're under 6'), and some don't care at all. Hell they won't even let you donate sperm if you're not a certain height because women don't want short kids.

Most women probably care at least a little bit and with everything else being equal the taller guy will get the first look, but you can make up for it with your other attributes as you mentioned.


For most women Tall is not a requirement, rather short 5'7 and less is probably a pass for many women because they like to wear heels and do not want to be the taller one.

Hair plays a large role for many, women do not want a 30-40yr guy that's balding /bald.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:32 pm to
American Woman, stay away from me

- Burton Cummings
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4547 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:36 pm to
These fellas will never have a Summer like '69
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 5:37 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56014 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:39 pm to
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$60k is a very good salary for a recent college grad. The idea that it's not is part of the problem.

i would say "average" instead of very good but i agree with your point. 60k in 2024 isn't close to the "nice apartment, europe every year, etc." lifestyle and that's what many seem to think is the standard.
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:41 pm to
I'm sorta feeling like going on a date in 2024.

It's been since the COVID year.

Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:41 pm to
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60k in 2024 isn't close to the "nice apartment, europe every year, etc." lifestyle and that's what many seem to think is the standard.



And why do people think this is the standard? It all comes down to the root of so many problems amongst young people in this country: social media.

I don't like to look on Instagram anymore. It could be like 2 pm on a random Wednesday and you will see people on the beach or somewhere similar smirking at the camera, and you just think to yourself "Where did I go wrong?" instead of "That's unrealistic."

And influencers (such as the ones you see on Snapchat) who seemingly don't have jobs and post all day on social media contribute to this problem, although I have to admit, I do enjoy some of the influencers' content.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4547 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:48 pm to
The roots are the parents.

It really boils down to that.

Unless you are born with God given wisdom.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18970 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:53 pm to
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On behalf of tall guys everywhere let me say this isn’t the secret weapon it’s being played out to be. I’m 6’5 and did all right but it’s not like hot women were throwing themselves at me even in my prime

It’s different now than when you were in your prime.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48161 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:28 pm to
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Hair plays a large roll for many, women do not want a 30-40yr guy that's balding /bald.


Thought they liked shaved heads lol…
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96897 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:42 pm to
Seinfeld covered that one…

A guy who shaves his head may be fine but, if you find out he couldn’t regrow hair if he wanted to, the appeal goes away.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:44 pm to
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On behalf of tall guys everywhere let me say this isn’t the secret weapon it’s being played out to be. I’m 6’5 and did all right but it’s not like hot women were throwing themselves at me even in my prime.

I’d say confidence, sense of humor, some level of success and not appearing desperate are more important than height. Women can sniff out desperation and lack of self confidence a mile away.

Of course this never comes to play if you’re just swiping and not interacting with them face to face.


I don't want to make it sound like I was making an excuse because I hate doing that. I would certainly be classified as short and I've dated attractive women so obviously it's not enough of a factor to prevent me from dating successfully.

Just seeing something like "no short guys please" in a profile you like can be a kick in the junk still.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
2301 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:49 pm to
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now you are down to 24 guys to every 1 dateable girl.

Even if you get in her messages, you are now on her roster reserve list from which she already has 5 date offers.
at least 20 of the 24 are creeps asking for nude pics or sending dick pics. don't be creepy or send or request pics and you can jump those 20 guys.

Be just a little funny and you're in her top 2. I've got as much experience as any. there are many shallow, horrible women, but it's not nearly as bad as many are painting things.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48161 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:50 pm to
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by kingbobSexless Men without economic or marriage prospects turn to radicalism to fill the void. They are always the first line shock troops of EVERY revolution. If you look at economic statistics like average age of first marriage, average age of first child, and other indicators which fluctuate over time to show how comfortable most people are, the stats have gotten insanely bad over the last 4 years. Average age of first marriage and first child go up as living standards for middle and working class households decline, often peaking before a massive war, plague, or revolution. The stats right now in the West are real bad. I’m talking pre French Revolution bad. I fully believe that easy access to internet porn is the only thing currently stalling a violent revolution, and it will only delay it, not prevent it. As soon as enough people realize that the risk and opportunities of burning it all down outweigh the certainties of the status quo, all allegiance and obedience to the institutions that govern and protect us will cease. They will burn down the world they have no place in in the hopes of a home in the new one they’ll build upon the ashes.

If you’re a gen x or boomer and wondering “is it really that bad? Sounds like a lot of losers complaining.” It’s bad, it’s really really bad. It’s worse than you can possibly imagine. This is a civilizational level existential threat as serious as a f$&king meteor.




Let me guess, stock up on ammo and before we know it we’ll be dropping redditors
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:19 pm to
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. I suspect, though I have zero hard evidence to back this up, that among men, the “one that got away” either broke up with them or never dated them at all


The girl that got away can't be someone they've never dated. Jfc do people think this?

Well I guess Margot Robbie is the one that got away for me.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99659 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:29 pm to
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Now, if I had my current income and my 25 year old body???


Got any pics of your 25 year old body?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20297 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:30 pm to
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Dudes dropping out of dating game.



Well I have tried to follow this thread and have a lot of catching up to do but now as of being 51, here are some of my thoughts.

I have been married before and been single for a bit too. The dating experience has generally sucked for me. I am not the best looking now as age and life circumstances has taken a toll but I do look like I am a good bit younger than I am. I tried online dating briefly and here is how it went generally...

Single lady profile: I am tired of guys just wanting hook ups. They are just after one thing. They don't try to get to know you and don't read the information on my profile to learn about me.

Me: Ok, super...I am a nice guy, caring and thoughtful which is what the "single lady" seems to want. How do I know? I took the time to read her profile. Then I send over a very thoughtful and witty message based off her profile she wanted to be read. Almost never get a reply, and I am sure it is based off my pics which weren't bad but not Tom Cruise either.

I spent a good amount of time at many of these "single lady" profiles who one after another wanted a guy who would do EXACTLY WHAT I DID but would never respond. Why? Obviously they were full of shite and griping in their profile over getting the treatment they were asking for but claiming they didn't want because they were just going off looks alone. Well guess what? After a certain amount of trying, it got disheartening and I bailed on the online dating scene.

So my take is it is a chicken/egg issue...the ladies seeking this caring and thoughtful type of guy are too shallow to find someone like this because they actually aren't interested in that, then run that ilk of guy off, then bitch about not being able to find this nice type of guy. Go figure!
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