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re: Ryan Perrilloux: One of the biggest 'what if' stories in LSU football history

Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:40 am to
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Les didn't completely handcuff the offense until after Jarrett Lee was prematurely thrust into action because of RP getting kicked off the team. The pick 6s made Les go ultra conservative. IMO, Les would have let RP go wild with the offense. But we'll never know what could have been.


Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:42 am to
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Mettenberger is the most overrated QB in LSU history. He never won a game that mattered, had one good game Bama '12, and padded stats against shite teams. And he did all that with OBJ and Jarvis Landry. I'm sick of hearing about this bum.


I'd go so far as to say had Les put Mett into the NCCG (and let him throw the ball) LSU would have won. Miles had nothing to lose.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:13 am to
Go back and watch game films of Etling's tenure as LSU QB. Mediocre was his ceiling. More often than not he was poor. Look at the Alabama and Florida games in 2016 and the Troy & Miss St games in 2017 and you know what I mean.

I had a lot of respect for Etling. He really tried to achieve at a high level, and was thrust into a whirlpool with the end of the Miles regime transitioning to Coach O. But mediocre was as good as we ever saw out of his play. Burrow was the first real top-shelf LSU QB in years.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 11:15 am
Posted by fokrab50
New York
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:17 am to
And what if QB Zack Lee signs with LSU in 2010ish instead of the Dodgers hoping to be the next Don Drysdale.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:17 am to
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LSU would have won

Not with Miles, or with a then very green Mett. Mett had talent, but wasn't very good even at any point in 2012.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:43 am to
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wins over A&M and USCe in '12

LSU won those games on the strength of stellar defense and strong running by Kenny Hilliard, Alfred Blue and Jeremy Hill. Mett was terrible with his scattershot passing vs A&M, and he threw a disastrous pick v SC which was potentially a 14 point turnaround early in that game.

LSU won those two games in spite of Mett, not because of. He was terrible
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:54 pm to
Agree with your sentiment in general but he did throw a nice TD to Boone (?) vs A&M. And regardless of how productive he was he was the QB in both top-10 wins.
Posted by RB5
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:07 pm to
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I'd go so far as to say had Les put Mett into the NCCG (and let him throw the ball) LSU would have won. Miles had nothing to lose.

Oh, you'd go that far huh? Go farther.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:23 am to
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That one joint changed the history of Lsu football. In stead of probably 2 more national championships.. We start a freshman QB then run conservative offenses through the next 10 years. Poor QB play til Danny Etling


Les probably has one of the most dynamic offenses in the country instead of starting a Harvard transfer.
Posted by num1lsufan
Meraux
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:28 am to
I would have to say Cecil The Diesel one of the Biggest What If in LSU Football.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30532 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:09 am to
Remember when we lost Eric Jefferson to the big10?


He was the best prospect out of La ever.


Amounted to a non factor.
Posted by timlan2057
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:04 am to
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What if Bo Rein drove instead of flew


Bo Rein is too easy to “what-if.” And yes, I think he would have done well at LSU but over the decades people have declared he would have won five straight NC’s.

And face the facts. LSU football was still being run by the good ole boys in the back room of Phil’s Oyster Bar in New Orleans in 1980. Had Bo Rein been an early Nick Saban, he likely would have quit in disgust and moved on to where his talents were more appreciated.

But since we’ll never know how a Rein reign would have turned out, countless LSU fans have convinced themselves he was Vince Lombardi, Nick Saban, and Knute Rockne all rolled into one.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28617 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:12 am to
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Les didn't completely handcuff the offense until after Jarrett Lee was prematurely thrust into action because of RP getting kicked off the team. The pick 6s made Les go ultra conservative. IMO, Les would have let RP go wild with the offense. But we'll never know what could have been.


This. That 2008 season changed the trajectory of the LSU program. Even though LSU probably should have won the NC in 2011, the stagnant, ultra-risk averse offense that came about post 2008 left several NC chances on the table.

There was virtually no gap between LSU and Alabama in the early 2010’s. The only difference was Saban was willing to adapt with the ever evolving landscape and Les refused to. If RP doesn’t get kicked off the team Saban may have much fewer NCs because LSU would have been a much more formidable hurdle

Prior to, and even in 2008 LSU’S offense was much more explosive under Les

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:15 am to
Those losses to ole miss and uga in 2008 changed Les

Our 2009-10 offenses were an absolute joke relative to the talent on the roster.

No matter the OC, crowton, krags, stud, cam…it was the same offense. Im so glad that moron is long gone
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:36 am to
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Too Many What ifs
What if Trey Prather doesn't go to Vietnam
What if Mike Miley returns to LSU for his Senior Season
What if Bo Rein drove instead of flew
What if Josh Booty arrives in Baton Rouge in 1994 instead of 1999
What if Chuck Noll had drafted Dan Marino instead of Gabe Rivera?

Sorry, I got caught up in the heat of the moment.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11226 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:01 am to
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That one joint changed the history of Lsu football. In stead of probably 2 more national championships.. We start a freshman QB then run conservative offenses through the next 10 years. Poor QB play til Danny Etling


RP getting booted started a run of young qbs having to play before they were ready. Qb room was never really stable with quality and depth until Joe Burrow transferred in.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 10:02 am
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4624 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:37 am to
I thought this was going to be about Bo Rein deciding to drive instead of flying.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4624 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:39 am to
ETA: I should have known better than to post without reading the prior comments.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:22 am to
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