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re: Salary of $115,627 needed in order to qualify for a mortgage on a typical American home

Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:27 am to
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:27 am to
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And you need to own a home to do this?


Well for my one weekend a month “home visit”, I’d like to actually own the place.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14260 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:27 am to
So a married couple making $60k apiece? That’s not too hard.

Or are we still on this “I’m single, 25 with my first job so I should be able to afford a house” kick?
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21348 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:29 am to
Houses around us were mostly sub 200k pre Covid. Now they’re all around 500k. It’s depressing seeing that they cost half of less only 3 years ago.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
10195 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:29 am to
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These kids want the same house their parents live in, but have no idea the years of work it took to get there.


Brother, our parents houses cost like $100k
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51379 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:30 am to
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Maybe you should move then.


Huh, why didn't I think of that? You're a genius.
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1585 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:30 am to
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Yeah but some of that 50% increase is made up for by the fact we save 16 cents per year on our Fourth of July BBQ.

It will only take 361,334 years to make up that $57,813 increase.


I agree with the sentiment, but a 50% increase to 115k means the starting number was at 76k, meaning an increase of 39k since pre pandemic, not 57k. We'll call it 3 years, so an average of 13k per year increase. 15k increase year over year for 2023 is only slightly above average for the trailing 3 years.

a 57k increase from 57k would be a 100% increase, which would be MUCH more worrisome
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7273 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:31 am to
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Not everyone lives in the small crappy town they were born in. If you’re in a new place you need opportunity to meet new people and not jimmy from down the block you knew since grade school.

The amount of boomers or deluded gen x is amazing. Like look at your kids


I am a Gen Xer and have a millenial son and whatever the next generation is called daughter. I worry sick about them being able to afford to live in the United States. He has a decent job for his age and experience. He did the right thing, got a degree, has stayed out of trouble, has not knocked anyone up, has not gone to jail...and he only has about $12K in student loan debt. He is SO far ahead of most of his peers it is stunning...and yet his owning a home is so far down the road that it scary.

I owned a home at 21. I was EXTREMELY FORTUNATE. I also owned a new truck, or me and the loan company did. I also worked full time and as much OT as I could and went to school 4 nigts a week taking a full load at a vo-tech and Southern Tech in an engineering program. Vo-tech to learn a trade, college to go beyond that. I paid for college out of pocket, trade school was paid for by my signature on a letter of indenture. That path to career and home ownership no longer exists and was almost a thing of the past when I finally earned a degree....a kid would have to earn $100K a year to do what I did today. Most peoople my age do not realize this...and have done their kids and their grandkids a GRAVE disservice. I don't know how they manage....
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:33 am to
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Or are we still on this “I’m single, 25 with my first job so I should be able to afford a house” kick?




No one will ever be that fortunate again. Boomers had the world handed to them on a silver platter and still have the gall to look down on younger generations.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4935 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:35 am to
I have bad news for you. I went from 70k to 300k in span of 8 years and the cost of living still outpaced me. If it wasn’t for my wife I wouldn’t be able to afford my home.

If your kid makes 100k now , by the time he saves up 200k, houses will go up another 50%
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by JoeBobRuby
Member since Sep 2005
5921 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:39 am to
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Problem is these young kids want a 300-400K home


Exactly, I see it all the time. These kids want the same house their parents live in, but have no idea the years of work it took to get there.


I have an idea. Let's Gaza everyone over 65 and it would solve the housing crisis among lots of other issues.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145253 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:46 am to
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There are plenty of 175K homes out there

oh really? Where?
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64687 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:47 am to
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A $175,000 home doesn't exist where I live. If I see $175,000 on Zillow, it is either land or a tear-down.

A 2/2 condo down the street from me is listed for over $300,000.


Same here.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5718 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:49 am to
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Now imagine a normal American

am I not one? I lived in a trailer for 6 years. I couldn't afford house mortgage until my 2nd child was born.

You claim to live frugally, but look down your nose at a mobile home. You clearly expect too much for your income.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7273 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:49 am to
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I have bad news for you. I went from 70k to 300k in span of 8 years and the cost of living still outpaced me. If it wasn’t for my wife I wouldn’t be able to afford my home.

If your kid makes 100k now , by the time he saves up 200k, houses will go up another 50%



You are spot on. My wife and I are approaching 60. Our household income puts us in the top 5% in the US. Our take home Salari every month is almost 130% of my sons annual income before taxes. If someone had told me when I was 21 that I would have the income I have today at 58 I would have thought they were insane and I would have wondered which island in the Bahamas I would have bought already. As it is we lead a pretty frugal life style and are probably 6 months out of one us losing our salary before we got into serious financial trouble. We save a lot for retirement but we also spend a fortune just living.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7273 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:53 am to
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am I not one? I lived in a trailer for 6 years. I couldn't afford house mortgage until my 2nd child was born.

You claim to live frugally, but look down your nose at a mobile home. You clearly expect too much for your income.



Mobile homes are only a marginally viable option. Most counties restrict them severely making them unaffordable and if you put one in a park your lot rent is going to sky rocket after the first 12 month lease forcing you to sell at a loss. Rvs are quickly going the same route.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:53 am to
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I went from 70k to 300k in span of 8 years and the cost of living still outpaced me. If it wasn’t for my wife I wouldn’t be able to afford my home


How much is your home that you can't afford while making 300k per year?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16466 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:54 am to
Options in Jeff Parish look a little better. A lot of duds in there, but the pics on a few of them look like they have some potential. *Filter for Houses

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7273 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:55 am to
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quote:


A $175,000 home doesn't exist where I live. If I see $175,000 on Zillow, it is either land or a tear-down.

A 2/2 condo down the street from me is listed for over $300,000.


Same here.



A fixer upper is a horrible idea for about 95% of experienced home owners. It would be the rare individual indeed who could make a go of one as a first time home owner. I did it in 1988 but I had been in the trades for 5 years and grew up on construction sites. And even then it cost me more than I could have bought the finished product for....it is not a viable solution for most folks.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71495 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:56 am to
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Problem is these young kids want a 300-400K home. There are plenty of 175K homes out there


This keeps getting vomited out, no there's no in safe, desirable places to live.
Posted by Bucket
Member since Feb 2011
75 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:56 am to
"You really think city life is that much happier than rural/ Middle America life? Man some of y’all are soft"

I can't find my turn-key dream house within walking distance of the craft brewery. Boomers have destroyed the economy!

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