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re: How stupid are the Palestinians who don’t want to leave Gaza?

Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:37 pm to
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19371 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:37 pm to
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in all that rubble do you see any furniture,clothes,bedding,toys anything that looks to be an inhabited residence? have you seen the iron dome video? the hamas rockets explode mid air,all fake


I love some good old fashioned crazy
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13997 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

So? The message was clear. Stay and die or get out and live. When given that dichotomy there isnt any excuse for not getting out even if its on foot
Get out on foot where? The sea?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22927 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:52 pm to
I usually find you worth conversing with but you misunderstood my post to such a degree I wont even bother this time.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14910 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:53 pm to
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not one Muslim country in that area wants to take them..




I truly believe the purpose of their existence to te Islamic world is to be a thorn in Israel's side and to be martyrs and stir up anti semitism. Take them out of that region and they have zero purpose.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2018 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:55 pm to
“People not being able to get out of Gaza” is the biggest crock of bullshite that has been spouted in a while.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30378 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:58 pm to
Well if I misunderstood it, set me on the right path. I’ve been known to misconstrue or misinterpret things. Probably even often if anyone were keeping track. I certainly meant no disrespect.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22927 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:59 pm to
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Get out on foot where? The sea?


Some of you are suck fricking drama queen betas living in the most conflict free conformable society the world has ever produced in the west since WW2. IF the binary is die in your rats nest as we will treat anyone remaining as hostile and target them, as they should, or get out however you can. Then you will find a way out for fricks sake.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4484 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 12:22 am to
"Leaving the Gaza Strip is challenging due to a combination of political, security, and logistical reasons. However, it's not
Erez Crossing (Beit Hanoun): This is the primary crossing between Gaza and Israel. The Israeli government heavily restricts movement through Erez for security reasons. Typically, only individuals with humanitarian cases (such as severe medical conditions), select merchants, foreign journalists, and NGO workers receive permits to cross. The approval process can be lengthy and not all applications are approved.

Rafah Border Crossing: This is the crossing point between Gaza and Egypt. Egypt also imposes restrictions, although they can be less strict than the Israeli ones. Over the years, the opening of the Rafah crossing has varied; sometimes it's open regularly, and other times it's closed for extended periods. Political developments often influence the frequency and ease of its operation.

Sea and Air: Gaza does not have a functioning international airport, and its coastline is blockaded by the Israeli navy, primarily for security concerns. Thus, traveling via sea or air is not a viable option.

The barriers surrounding the Gaza Strip are primarily fences rather than solid walls, and their heights can vary. Here's a general overview:

Israel-Gaza Barrier: This is primarily a security fence, not a concrete wall. The fence is equipped with various sensors to detect potential breaches. Its height is approximately 6 meters (around 20 feet), although there are portions that might be higher or lower depending on the terrain and specific security concerns. In certain sensitive areas, there are additional walls or barriers.

Egypt-Gaza Barrier: Egypt has also constructed barriers along its border with Gaza. This barrier is a combination of fencing and underground obstacles to counter tunneling activities. The above-ground fence is roughly similar in height to the Israeli fence.

Again, while there are sections that might feature concrete walls (especially near crossing points or areas of particular concern), the majority of the barrier is a fence.

The fencing around the Gaza Strip is not ordinary fencing. It's a sophisticated security barrier equipped with various sensors, cameras, and other monitoring equipment designed specifically to detect any tampering or breach attempts. Here's why simply "cutting through the fencing" is not straightforward:

Detection Systems: The barrier is equipped with sensors that can detect vibrations or any attempt to cut, climb, or tamper with the fence. Any such activity would trigger alarms and alert the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) to the exact location of the attempt.

Surveillance: The entire length of the fence is monitored by cameras, drones, and regular military patrols. This surveillance makes it difficult for anyone to approach the fence without being detected.

Response Time: Given the surveillance and detection systems in place, the IDF can respond rapidly to any detected breach or tampering attempt. The area surrounding the fence is also kept clear to provide visibility and eliminate cover for potential infiltrators.

Secondary Barriers: In some places, there are additional fences or barriers, making it even more challenging to cross into Israeli territory.

Danger to Civilians: Any attempt to breach the fence can be extremely dangerous. Over the years, there have been many incidents where individuals approaching or trying to breach the fence were shot or arrested.

While there have been instances where individuals or groups have attempted to cut or breach the fence during protests or other situations, it is a highly risky endeavor and is by no means an easy or safe way to cross the border."




Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19452 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 12:31 am to
The Palestinians who left in 48 were never allowed to return to their homes in what was now a foreign state. The fear is that Israel will use the war to expel them from Gaza.

Netanyahu has raised the idea previously with Cairo. They said, no. But the Israelis could use the war to force that outcome.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 12:34 am
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13997 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:01 am to
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Some of you are suck fricking drama queen betas living in the most conflict free conformable society the world has ever produced in the west since WW2. IF the binary is die in your rats nest as we will treat anyone remaining as hostile and target them, as they should, or get out however you can. Then you will find a way out for fricks sake.
I asked a simple question. They’re surrounded by 2 hard borders and a sea

If you love your family you’ll get help. Please. Do it for them
Posted by Figureitoutfboy
Member since May 2023
62 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:07 am to
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Hope Israel has lots of bulldozers to clear a path through all that shite.


If wars in Chechnya and Ukraine taught anyone anything g is that rubble is hard to fight through.

Israelis better be ready to lose lots and lots of men and women of they plan to take it. Drone drops, IEDs, atgms,FPVs. They even have some AA. It's gonna be a bloodbath.
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
1199 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:00 am to
Oh well...guess it's just too f***ing bad ain't it Waldo.




Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22618 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:12 am to
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. I use the parenthesis because they arent terrorist's really in the sense most think. It is literally just Iran fighting a war under a shell company so people dont outright blame them.





You're saying that Sunni Hamas is controlled by Shi'ite Iran?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14178 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:43 am to
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Nobody wants them

This is what happens when you're such an a-hole everywhere you go that even your friends kick you out.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64805 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:54 am to
quote:

the most ineffective and cowardly "terrorist" group in existence.


Did I just dream up that Hamas murdered over 1000 people just a week ago?

Or do we just have differing definitions for the word “ineffective”
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140994 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:58 am to
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raised the idea previously with Cairo. They said, no.


No one wants these people.

There must be something about them.


Hmmmmmmmm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4741 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Nobody wants them

They are more useful as victims to the Arab world
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20275 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Nobody wants them


Exactly! Not sure which stands out the most of their two main identifiers…perpetual victims or violent terrorists…both suck to have around!
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49138 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:06 am to
quote:


Yep.. not one Muslim country in that area wants to take them..


Isn't that telling
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
10279 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:43 am to
Like people who do t evac for a hurricane
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