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re: Quick tip: SC Affirmative Action Ruling means nothing
Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:16 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:16 am to NC_Tigah
quote:They blew up the narrative that non-whites can't excel in society without a helping hand from the left. It's a mortal sin in their eyes.
What did Asians do to get stereotyped and racially mistreated by Harvard?
Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:24 am to Dkvet
quote:
I thought libs simply ignoring SC rulings was a recent cultural thing. But last Sunday at church someone mentioned the SC outlawing prayer in schools 60 years ago. Many members of our life group class mentioned they were still praying in their schools in 1980 ( in the south). So, even conservatives were also doing it many years ago. ??
Not even close to the same thing. And, furthermore, they didn’t say “you may never pray in school.”
Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:26 am to Tigers0891
IDK, sure seems to have pissed off the Left.
And that's a good thing.
And that's a good thing.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 8:43 am to LafTiger
quote:
Till the universities get shred for the potential lifetime earnings of a student who didn’t get in, while a lesser deserving student did…and the difference is race. That’s when the practice will stop.
This, you guys need to stop with the negativity. When schools have openly stated they will defy the order and continue to be racist, it wont be too difficult to prove it in court if they continue business as usual.
And the lawsuit will be that I was deprived of an education to have a career as a hedge fund operator where I would have amassed a wealth slightly north of 2billion in net present value....thats my story and Im stickin to it.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:14 am to Big Jim Slade
quote:
Nothing will change but the ruling be hammered as a Dem campaign point.
Republicans should constantly ask why democrats think that blacks are inferior to whites and must be given easier paths in life.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:18 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
quote:
Where the "RACE" box used to be there'll be a single question:
When eating chicken wings, which dip do you prefer?
A) Hot Sauce
B) Ranch
C) Sriracha
D) Ewww... I'm vegan.
Percentages added/deducted from scores:
A) +20
B) -10
c) -20
D) +5
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:21 am to Tigers0891
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You’re a fool if you believe every school won’t go out of their way to still keep the practice.
You are the fool if you believe this. Many schools will do as you say - maybe most - but not all schools will. And the point is that the pressure from the Federal Government has been outlawed.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:24 am to Tigers0891
Jim Crow gonna Jim Crow...
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:05 am to Tigers0891
Hope they like spending their ridiculous endowments on shitty liberal attorneys to defend against 7 million lawsuits.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:13 am to Tigers0891
quote:
You’re a fool if you believe every school won’t go out of their way to still keep the practice. Nothing will change in this race obsessed current culture we live in.
What is does is create an avenue for lawsuits. This will eventually wear them down financially
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:21 am to Tigers0891
I think what it does is opens up the school for lawsuit if it’s proven that admissions show preference for race over merit.
Meaning - white/Asian students are systemically turned away while others with the same or lesser merit are accepted.
Can they still do it? Sure. But it’s not without risk. There’s no legal safety net.
Meaning - white/Asian students are systemically turned away while others with the same or lesser merit are accepted.
Can they still do it? Sure. But it’s not without risk. There’s no legal safety net.
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/1/23 at 12:04 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:
Not far off. They will instead put a new essay question that will be evaluated on content alone, not grammatical or spelling errors. The question will be: How has your race impacted your life and the community around you? They will then weigh this essay the same as the check box previously. It’s an easy question for them to know their race and gets around the SCOTUS ruling, because they aren’t evaluating you on your race, but the answer to a question
No, they won’t….the opinion almost references this exact scenario. But I guess you had to find a way to be the victim so you created this hypothetical
Posted on 7/5/23 at 3:09 am to GruntbyAssociation
quote:
What if you like them coated in hot sauce then dipped in a side of ranch?
You're white.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:42 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
All Whistleblowers must be believed, and verified.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:59 am to Tigers0891
Maybe not but it gives people the right to sue if they find out that it's still going on I would think. I guess they would have to prove they were harmed and as a direct result of the schools race based application process.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:07 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
And that's a good thing.
The good thing is that it upholds equal protection under the law...at least to the degree that it can in this context. That's the good part. That it angers the opposition is merely incidental.
This idea that anything that makes the other tribe angry is awesome is specious to the point of being counter-productive IMO. It's why we have abandoned principle in favor of populism, it's why we have a cult of Trump, and it's why the base is so easily manipulated by the left.
We need to let go of this junior-high mentality and go back to being the adult in the room. The left has always been childish. Now that the right has embraced being childish there's no adult left to see to it that bills get paid and the house doesn't burn down.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:18 am to DavidTheGnome
quote:
Maybe not but it gives people the right to sue if they find out that it's still going on I would think. I guess they would have to prove they were harmed and as a direct result of the schools race based application process.
That's what I think too.
The best that can happen with the ruling is that it provides a legal basis for stringing up those who get caught by their buster-browns.
The other thing it does is provide at least the beginning of a legal basis for challenging the advancement of university employees on the basis of AA, which is where you will see lawsuits.
I personally know people in that situation. I know one guy who was the only professor qualified to teach a certain class or series of classes but was being paid below his classification to teach them and was told straight up that he wasn't being paid the appropriate scale because there were two other professors in his department (neither of whom was qualified to teach the classes) who were black females and the person in charge (also a black female) wasn't going to pay a white male more than she was paying the black females.
It's been a while since the details were told to me and I may have butchered them to some extent, but that's the gist of that story, the point being that sex/race discrimination happens in universities all the time. Quite out in the open.
IME it's only a matter of time before this decision becomes, "If it's unconstitutional to discriminate on the basis of sex/race for admission, it's also unconstitutional to do it when it comes to employees."
Plus, someone will be a whisteblower somewhere. Somebody is going to secretly record a meeting at Harvard or somewhere in which it is obvious that they still admit on the basis of race.
Having a spouse in academia I can tell you that those people in general think they are above the law because they are a university. Not just Harvard...all of them. They'll be stupid and not careful, because they think they don't have to be, and this ruling will end up providing the basis for the fall that follows their pride. Mark my words.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 6:20 am
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:20 am to Hangit
quote:
Whistleblowers
Harvard men are NOT whistle-blowers.
They're cock-blowers.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:27 am to Dkvet
quote:
But last Sunday at church someone mentioned the SC outlawing prayer in schools 60 years ago
You'll have to be more specific. They didnt "outlaw" prayer at school. Anyone could pray whenever they wanted. They "outlawed" school sponsored prayer. That's a big difference.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:56 am to Tigers0891
And they will open themselves up to some winnable lawsuits.
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