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The collapse of Britain's National Health Service, the crown jewel of socialized healthcar

Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:44 am
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:44 am
The collapse of Britain's National Health Service, the crown jewel of socialized healthcare

Great Britain's National Health Service, which is meant to provide “free” universal healthcare, is collapsing under the strain of long wait times, hidden data, and excess deaths.

Long held up as the crown jewel of “socialized healthcare,” the world’s largest government-run system is unraveling.

The crisis has led to a surge in excess deaths that has outlasted the coronavirus pandemic, with ambulance and emergency room delays linked to hundreds of deaths each week, leaked internal data suggest. Hospitals already near capacity last fall could not keep pace as the winter flu season took hold.

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Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:46 am to
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hidden data


Seems to be a universal issue to hide the real problems of government ran anything.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2968 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:47 am to
And then magnify that with the US size difference. There is simply no way it would work. Not saying what we have is great by any means, but I can't imagine govt subsidized health care for all being a good thing here.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6265 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:49 am to
Of course it will. You can't mandate the government provide a product/service like healthcare and not ultimately expect lines and low quality.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6601 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:49 am to
Meh, Labour will just blame it on “Not enough money”.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:51 am to
I’m sure this has nothing to do with their muslim visitors.
Posted by Santa Claws
Member since Mar 2023
23 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:52 am to
Demographics is Destiny
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96515 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:04 pm to
“Crown jewel” my arse.

That has been a disaster for a long time but they have been denying reality and feeling superior to the US over it.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41228 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:12 pm to
But we can make it work here! They just didn't do it right. Medicare for all......
Posted by MzJimLahey
Deep South
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:17 pm to
I have a dear friend who is an NHS nurse in England. She's relayed stories to me of ambulances waiting 10-12 deep to get into the emergency rooms and patients dying due to staffing shortages.There's literally not enough providers to cover the floors. Low moral and low pay is often a topic as well. Kinda sucks when your government job doesn't pay enough to keep the heat on in your government (counsel) housing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124222 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:20 pm to
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The collapse of Britain's National Health Service, the crown jewel of socialized healthcare
No worries for the UK rich. They get private healthcare while they continue to promote the NHS for everyone else..
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56506 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:51 pm to
Too many migrants sucking up resources.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9281 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:52 pm to
I remember them making the NHS a significant part of the summer Olympics opening ceremony. I was living there at the time and kept questioning why would they celebrated it so much, when it was crap.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14325 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:49 pm to
One danger of centralized healthcare that reared its ugly head during the COVID craziness was the refusal of many healthcare professionals to prescribe treatments like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. Even with a prescription, some pharmacists would not fill them.

Instead of debating the effectiveness of these treatments, the orders to not prescribe them came down and were mostly driven by politics. And when Florida was distributing monoclonal antibodies with success, the Feds stepped in and took that over.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29512 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:55 pm to
Healthcare in the same fashion as the Postal service or the DMV .

What could possibly go wrong? They are the hallmarks of efficiency !!!
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:19 pm to
It's coming to a theater near you soon.

mRNA, nanotechnology, AI.. look who owns the patents/are banking on this & then ask yourself what do healthcare facilities & staff look like in the future?

USGovt is taking over healthcare, banking, farming, technology right under our noses.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15814 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:26 pm to
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After a series of leaks revealed emergency waiting room times up to five times higher than the publicly available figures, the NHS promised to begin making the “hidden” data available.

British Health Secretary Steve Barclay said the NHS would publish the “real” number beginning in April in an effort to improve “transparency.”


Remember when the Soviets lied about radiation figures during Chernobyl? They had the real numbers and the propaganda numbers.

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Britons should be outraged, but they’re conditioned to think the NHS is better than every alternative, so they’ll take what they’re given.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:31 pm to
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, is collapsing under the strain of long wait times, hidden data, and excess deaths.


Collapsing? It won't collapse because they don't give a frick no matter how many people died and the UK seems to want it based on their voting habits.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
2028 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:23 pm to
They Globalist version of ObamaCare being played out before our eyes. All you DEMOCRAT COMMUNIST SCUMBAGS, the chickens are about to come home to roost in the USA, can’t wait to see y’all punk asses with your tail between your legs with no supplies when the shite hits the fan, bunch of fruitcakes

Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3858 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Great Britain's National Health Service, which is meant to provide “free” universal healthcare, is collapsing


I know Jimmy Kimmel and the other Hollywood assclowns and Liz Warren like to blab on and on about how our healthcare system is inhumane and kills people because they can't afford insulin and stuff and if we just went to a European/Canadian system that everybody would be totally healthy.

THIS. IS. UNADULTERATED. bullshite.

I have multiple friends in Canada and EU healthcare systems. One just died of cancer. One has a very ill son that will never grow up. The ordeals they go through are just as bad, if not worse.

The friend that just died could not get an MRI fast enough. He waited days and days. He spent a week in the hospital before they could get him in. Like WTF man he needed one that hour!!!

My friend who's son is sick gets new doctors from time to time. There is no "interview your doctor" process. You get a letter from the ministry of health, it tells you to visit a new doctor, you go to that doctor. Never met him before but STFU and go.

I have another friend that is on a five year waiting list for a nasal outpatient procedure I once had "because it's not critical". Dude I paid $1500 and insurance covered the rest. Doctor advised on it, I went in a week or two later, finished. I breathe and sleep better.

Socialized healthcare is a total crock.
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