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re: Miracle weight loss shots hyped by Hollywood linked to deadly bowel obstructions

Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:46 am to
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
232 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:46 am to
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currently on this as well. I have had 5 knee surgeries so working out was tough. currently down 83 lbs, I was 6'6" 355 have been able to get back into the gym, and be WAY more active. I have tried the whole eat good food thing but getting into the gym was tough. I feel so much better in general and do eat less than I used to, can even play pickup basketball at the gym with my high school aged boys again!


Very happy you received good treatment and it has opened up doors to you that old school thinking never did. Welcome!
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93789 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:47 am to
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I know you don't want to hear this, but you need to be lifting weights.


Maybe so, but my job is physically demanding at times and so is my son. I don’t sit on the couch 19 hours a day.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:50 am to
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Maybe so


No. Not maybe. You need to. Especially after taking these drugs.

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but my job is physically demanding at times and so is my son. I don’t sit on the couch 19 hours a day.


I'm not saying you do.

You lost the weight. You recognized a need there and you accomplished it. Good for you.

Now recognize the need to build and maintain lean muscle mass.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262338 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:50 am to
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Ok? And?

How is that different from people in the gym?


Its a behavioral change that signals a much higher chance of success.

If you don't modify behaviors, "magic pills" will never work.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
232 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:50 am to
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Both will become somewhat healthier from weight loss but one will have the long term discipline and lifestyle to maintain the results.


This is proven to be false. For those with the disease of obesity, diet and exercise is not only largely ineffective long term but also causes constant feelings of starvation and mental impact.

The science is all there at this point. There are still questions that need to be answered, but we KNOW better than the perspective most still take on this.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129047 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:51 am to
I was taking ozempic at my doctor’s recommendation. I have PCOS which made me insulin resistant. My A1C was creeping up and he thought this would def help with that. Women with PCOS do have a more difficult time losing weight.

My insurance doesn’t cover weight loss meds but it did at first cover this for me cause of my insulin resistance and PCOS. I didn’t just sit on my arse with this med. I still exercised. And I still ate. I just wasn’t as hungry. I was only taking the lower dose so my weight loss wasn’t as much as others.

However…my insurance (like many others now) will only cover Ozempic for those with a type 2 diabetes diagnosis. So I’m done. Which is fine…I get it. There is a shortage of this med for diabetics so they are gonna be strict on coverage. I’m not willing to pay $900 a month out of pocket for this med.

While I was on this med my A1C levels dropped as did my cholesterol levels. So this med was helpful in more than just helping me to lose weight.

But of course it’s different than the “accepted way” so the OT will naturally shite all over it. Never change guys
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:54 am
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
3617 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:51 am to
i was fat and lazy with poor eating habits. I started the shots in october. I am just not hungry anymore, and it is easy to stick to a reasonable low carb/low calorie diet. I have lost 40 lbs since then. From 230 to 190. Feel great.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19376 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:52 am to
there are no free lunches in nature

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262338 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:54 am to
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For those with the disease of obesity, diet and exercise is not only largely ineffective long term but also causes constant feelings of starvation and mental impact.


Youre not defeating it with magic shots.

That may kicks start you to success but your body will adjust over time if you don't ratchet up your physical activity.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96200 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:55 am to
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I’m considered “obese” according to the chart they put out. And I’m “overweight” until I hit 170. I’ll NEVER hit 170 because I’d look like a beanpole.


So you are 5’9” and you claim 170 would have you looking like a “beanpole”

These guys are 15 lighter than that 170 and look fine, and I promise you aren’t carrying more muscle mass than them….



This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:56 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56575 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:56 am to
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and tons of her friends are on it, and saying the same thing.
Yet when you look at the data, all signs say that folks either keep taking it at a grand a month, or they rebound to about a 10% net weight gain. That and recent data saying there are some pretty severe unintended consequences would make me hesitant to want anyone I know take it.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 9:02 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15307 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:59 am to
Those guys all walk around 12-15 lbs heavier than their fighting weight, so that's a silly comparison. Regular joes aren't cutting weight to weigh themselves on a random weeknight.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93789 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:59 am to
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While I was on this med my A1C levels dropped as did my cholesterol levels. So this med was helpful in more than just helping me to lose weight.


The reason I got on them because bloodwork came back and I was pre diabetic. At 220 lbs. I guess that comes along with the genes, I don’t know, because I was surprised when they told me where I was at. That’s why I’m able to afford this type of shot. If I wasn’t labeled that way, then there’s no way I’d be paying that much.

Since I’ve been on it, I’ve taken my labs 2x and both times they come back improving. So like you, there is a benefit to it. And it helps that I drastically cut the sugar.

Wife just got on semiglutide. Losing weight and gaining mass just by doing her job. Her job has been physical but she’s losing weight pretty quickly too.

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But of course it’s different than the “accepted way” so the OT will naturally shite all over it. Never change guys lol:



Never will. Do as I say or shame on you, loser. God forbid technology and medicine changes and there are things that can be done that wasn’t available 5-10 years ago

We will be 80 years old and there will be some anti-aging serum on the market and these guys will tell you “why don’t you just age like our forefathers did and die when you’re supposed to!!”

I wonder if I go to the gym and take the shot in the locker room…if it would count then.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56575 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:01 am to
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For those with the disease of obesity
You are joking right. I am too heavy. I dont have a disease, I have a serious lack of activity and eat like shite. A disease? shite.

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diet and exercise is not only largely ineffective long term
History of man will tell you that it was effective. As we became more sedentary and had access to processed foods with little nutritional value, we all got fat. Take away crap food, and make people work for a living and everyone will lose weight.

It is hard to accept that it is, with rare exception, a persons lifestyle and nutrition choices that make them too fat.

Raises hand.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:01 am to
I’m still sweet. I just cannot stand our cultural rot and the laziness of Americans.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47561 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:04 am to
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I’m still sweet. I just cannot stand our cultural rot and the laziness of Americans.



Yea buddy! You're getting old and crotchety like the rest of us.
I remember the 70s show when it came out(I was at LSU). Rewatching it with the gf now and I so closely identify with Red.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 9:06 am
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:04 am to
Could you not have done the same without shooting your self up with something to completely eradicate your diet? I don’t find it to be impressive that people are losing weight by taking something that totally eliminates your appetite. There is little to no discipline that leads to habit change in that method.

I’ve read about the people who have since gone off the shot and gained so much back because their appetite and crappy eating habits ensued once they stopped with the magic shot.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96200 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:08 am to
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Those guys all walk around 12-15 lbs heavier than their fighting weight, so that's a silly comparison
Ok great

So they are 5’9” 160 lbs with considerable muscle mass. So I’m pretty sure mr TD poster wouldn’t be an unhealthy beanpole at 170 lbs
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56575 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:09 am to
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I’ve read about the people who have since gone off the shot and gained so much back because their appetite and crappy eating habits ensued once they stopped with the magic shot.

look at any fad, weight loss fads have existed for decades. We are all heavier than ever as a society. No one is forcing food into your mouth, it is a choice. These drugs work because they reduce appetite, you eat less.

The same people that say that eating less doesnt work as a weight loss strategy seem fine taking a drug that results in fewer calories consumed by eating less. That is my 2 cents.

Hell, I looked into it, I can afford it for a good while, but I know I would not pay for it forever and I would rebound... that and not wanting my small intestine to rupture.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:10 am to
You’re talking to a former yo yo dieter who has had three kids and struggled with weight for years of my life. I’ve always been extremely athletic, but my genetics had me predispositioned to carry some weight anytime I wasn’t at peak eating and physical fitness in my sports. It took me a long time and a lot of mental anguish (some of which was a result of the ugliness that came from posters on this website) to force me into learning how to truly live a healthy lifestyle free from doing it for vanity but instead, doing it for long term wellness.

I work hard to be healthy but none of that came overnight. Most of my friends are always commenting on my fitness, how it comes easy to me and that I always bounce back after a baby. I do not allow them to believe that I’m just genetically blessed, i happily share my eating and fitness routine so that if/when they are ready, they have a more realistic idea of what it takes. Spoiler alert: it ain’t a magic shot.

PS: I was diagnosed with PCOS/insulin resistance in college. I got with a trainer the minute I graduated and could afford it. I reversed my insulin resistance without metformin (I used it for a couple weeks and thought I was going to die) and have perfect blood work 15 years later.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 9:13 am
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