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re: Miracle weight loss shots hyped by Hollywood linked to deadly bowel obstructions

Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:10 am to
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:10 am to
Mounjaro
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:14 am to
It’s amazing what some people will do to avoid simple self restraint. Are we really this weak?
Posted by deathvalleygrassmmmm
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:36 am to
currently on this as well. I have had 5 knee surgeries so working out was tough. currently down 83 lbs, I was 6'6" 355 have been able to get back into the gym, and be WAY more active. I have tried the whole eat good food thing but getting into the gym was tough. I feel so much better in general and do eat less than I used to, can even play pickup basketball at the gym with my high school aged boys again!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:40 am to
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It’s amazing what some people will do to avoid simple self restraint. Are we really this weak?


Its getting worse. The political strategy used to be aimed at helping people change.

Its now oriented towards placating these people because the powers that be believe them to be incapable of bettering themselves.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17251 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:43 am to
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It’s amazing what some people will do to avoid simple self restraint.


How do you feel about peptides, supplements, steroids, adderall, vynase, etc?
Posted by financetiger
Member since Feb 2008
1665 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:48 am to
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currently on this as well. I have had 5 knee surgeries so working out was tough. currently down 83 lbs, I was 6'6" 355 have been able to get back into the gym, and be WAY more active. I have tried the whole eat good food thing but getting into the gym was tough. I feel so much better in general and do eat less than I used to, can even play pickup basketball at the gym with my high school aged boys again!


That's wonderful! Congrats to you. I am all for it if it can make people feel better and become healthier.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:53 am to
More possible drug side effects I don't have to worry about.

#blessed
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83514 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:54 am to
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Posters whine because people are fat. Fat people lose weight, but not the way posters want them to and continue to whine that they’re no longer overweight, but didn’t do it the conventional/their way.


These drugs are meant for obese people. I'm all for obese people taking these drugs and losing weight.

The problem with these drugs is that they do not discriminate against what type of mass you lose. Studies show that you will also lose approximately 40% lean mass, meaning muscle, tendon, and bone mass.

If you need to lose 100+ lbs, by all means, take these drugs and worry about body composition later.

But the soccer moms taking this in order to lose 20 vanity lbs are not doing it in an healthy manner, especially if they are 50+, as lean mass is extremely important at those ages as it becomes increasingly more difficult to build and maintain as you age.

This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:00 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259858 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:58 am to
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Posters whine because people are fat. Fat people lose weight, but not the way posters want them to


The issue with these types of weight loss (get thin quick schemes) is they don't last, and people usually put the weight back on in a couple of years.

Unless you modify behavior, nothing is going to change.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19236 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:01 am to
I gained some weight during Covid then had some other stress, plus I sit at a computer 9 hours a day.

My Dr wrote me a script for Saxenda.

I eat breakfast and lunch then take my shot and don't eat again until breakfast the next day. 16 to 18 hour fast.

I'm down 17 lbs in 8 weeks, it just makes you not feel hungry.

And I poop fine
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:06 am to
That’s sad. That crap is dangerous and the reason nothing has worked before is because she probably hasn’t put in the work before. It’s basically a shot allowing someone to starve themselves.

It’s what the Kardashians and half the housewives of bravo are taking. Lazy heifers.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12365 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:16 am to
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How do you feel about peptides, supplements, steroids, adderall, vynase, etc?


You’re implying that people are fat because they have a medical disorder, get up from the table and start running around the block each day and see if your “medical” problem can be resolved.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:23 am to
Exactly. The people who are saying those who take supplements are doing the same thing…That’s BS. Those people are in the gym generally doing harder workouts than most, minding their diet scrupulously, and are generally adding in those supplements to elevate their performance and athletic output. It’s not like they’re gulping down peptides while eating the same shitastic diet and avoiding exercise. Sure, maybe their aspirations and goals are vanity related, but so are the goals of most of the people jabbing themselves with the starvation shot. Both will become somewhat healthier from weight loss but one will have the long term discipline and lifestyle to maintain the results.

That put down the fork thread is ten times more admirable than those who stick themselves with a shot to lose weight. I have friends doing it. I mind my business and don’t say much because they’ve stated that they know the risks. These same friends (who I love) struggle with lifestyle discipline. They use their kids as an excuse as to why they don’t have energy or the time to eat right and exercise. In reality, most have plenty of time and money to do it, they just don’t. I think most will eventually figure out that the long term results they want are coming only from lifestyle change, alone. Which, of course, is the hardest thing to do. But it can be done by anyone, regardless of their resources.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47460 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:37 am to
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It’s amazing what some people will do to avoid simple self restraint. Are we really this weak?


It's amazing how many people refuse treat overeating as a terrible addiction, just like nicotine or alcohol. It's just as hard to quit for these people.

Telling them to show restraint just shows your ignorance.
People need patches to quit smoking and a shite ton of support AND medications to quit drinking.

But Hey it's the OT so lets take a shite on people trying to curb their overeating addiction by taking a drug proven safe for the Diabeetus.



FWIW: insurances aren't covering this drug for patients unless they have comorbidities like bmi and hypertension.
The implication here is the patient's quality of life will improve and they will get off the medication when their metrics fall back within a healthier range.

This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17251 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:40 am to
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You’re implying that people are fat because they have a medical disorder


I have never said or implied such a thing, I asked what you thought about people using chemicals, drugs, supplements etc to improve and compliment their routine to improve body image, ability To concentrate, or to clear their skin of blemishes?
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:42 am
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
93682 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:41 am to
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The issue with these types of weight loss (get thin quick schemes) is they don't last, and people usually put the weight back on in a couple of years.

Unless you modify behavior, nothing is going to change.


Ok? And?

How is that different from people in the gym?

Why is it so bothersome for people how people are losing weight?

I’m considered “obese” according to the chart they put out. And I’m “overweight” until I hit 170. I’ll NEVER hit 170 because I’d look like a beanpole. Period. I’m at 185 and I’m already too thin. With that said, what difference does it make how I did it? I did it with the help of injections and the almost complete cutoff of sugar.

I’m cutting back on them because I don’t want to lose anymore, no matter what those little charts say. It’s more about how I feel and look. And I think I feel much better and look better than I did at 222 when I started.

Sorry I wasn’t at the gym doing it. I was at work. Or taking walks. Or running with my kid outside. I hate gym workouts. I don’t like them. It’s not “fun” or “addicting” to me. It’s a chore. The motivation is non existent when you’re up against something you just don’t enjoy.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47460 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:41 am to
quote:

That’s sad. That crap is dangerous and the reason nothing has worked before is because she probably hasn’t put in the work before. It’s basically a shot allowing someone to starve themselves.

It’s what the Kardashians and half the housewives of bravo are taking. Lazy heifers.



You use to be so sweet back when you were in college.

Now you're a judgey ole 30 something coont.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83514 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:45 am to
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Sorry I wasn’t at the gym doing it. I was at work. Or taking walks. Or running with my kid outside. I hate gym workouts. I don’t like them. It’s not “fun” or “addicting” to me. It’s a chore. The motivation is non existent when you’re up against something you just don’t enjoy.


I know you don't want to hear this, but you need to be lifting weights.

I'm happy that you lost weight. Truly. But now that you lost the weight, its time to focus on body composition. Meaning creating and maintaining lean mass.

You don't have to go to the gym. Buy some kettlebells and work out in your garage. Get the whole family involved. You don't have to enjoy it. Consider it an investment into your future.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93682 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:45 am to
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That put down the fork thread is ten times more admirable than those who stick themselves with a shot to lose weight. I have friends doing it. I mind my business and don’t say much because they’ve stated that they know the risks.


I took a different route than gym rats to putting the fork down. But I did and I don’t eat near as much as I used to. And I got results. Sue me.

You have friends doing it and mind your business but here you are judging people on alternative ways to lose weight. At least these people are taking a route to lose the weight that posters think is “disgusting.” I don’t care how they/I get there, they set a goal and go out and do it. It’s a start.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
181 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:45 am to
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I’m amazed at the lengths people will go to in order to avoid dieting and exercise. Amazed.


Not that there aren’t people abusing this, but there is a very serious health condition that this drug treats. One that is the second leading cause of preventable death is the US(only second to smoking).

The impetus must be placed on doctors to prescribe according to proper protocols. Vanity is NOT a comorbidity.

Acting like the simple answer is diet and exercise shows how incredibly naive your position is. For some that may be true, but for the majority it is not. Consider how many people try over and over again to do it with diet and exercise and fail numerous times.

There are exceptions, but the reality and facts are that obesity is a disease based in genetic predispositions. Medical weight loss is the newest powerful tool to fight that disease.
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