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re: Job offer - Am I just being stubborn?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:27 pm to SaintTiger80
Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:27 pm to SaintTiger80
I turned down a consulting gig earlier this year that would be about 3x my current salary. I have a 4 month old and the schedule was a rotation and one that sucked at that.
I hope my industry stays hot for awhile so I can reevaluate in a year or so.
I personally wouldn't go consult for 27% more if I was comfortable and felt secure at my current job. Unless maybe the wife is working and can cover living if you get cut or hours reduced.
I hope my industry stays hot for awhile so I can reevaluate in a year or so.
I personally wouldn't go consult for 27% more if I was comfortable and felt secure at my current job. Unless maybe the wife is working and can cover living if you get cut or hours reduced.
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:28 pm to SaintTiger80
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Am I just being stubborn and passing up a huge opportunity? Or am I ok not wanting to change my comfortable life?
All money ain't good money.
The consultant world is a dog eat dog environment. I went from the client side to the consultant side of projects because they offered me a $20k raise in salary. I'm trying to find ways to get my arse back to the client side of things as quickly as I can. The stress level on the consultant side is just way too much for me and the culture was kind of toxic. I just want to do my job and go home. I don't want to bring any work home with me. I was constantly doing shite at home trying to keep up with the pace they were moving at. It was interfering with my family life and personal wellbeing.
There's value to having a good working culture and a good work life balance. So, when evaluating your decision, don't forget those things
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:29 am to SaintTiger80
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three kids
You know the rules….
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(no pics sickos)
Dammit!
In all seriousness, I just took a job that would have been more stressful but huge raise and parlayed that into a big raise at my old employer. Talk to your employer and tell them about your best offer. If you are worth it, they will pony up or make your situation better. It’s a win-win for everyone. Nobody wants to work and finding competent people willing to work is next to impossible.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 12:35 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:05 am to SaintTiger80
How easy would it be to find similar role or better with another utility company if things don’t work out? Seems like utility companies would be very much a stair step within type of place so getting jumping off that ladder and potentially starting lower would be the biggest factor IMO.
As mentioned, you could always consult on the side if you wanted to work more hours. A utility company also seems like and employer who wouldn’t mind that.
As mentioned, you could always consult on the side if you wanted to work more hours. A utility company also seems like and employer who wouldn’t mind that.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:18 am to SaintTiger80
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Definitely will be working more. Probably 45-55 hours a week. As opposed to the 40 hours currently.
So you'd work 25% more for 27% more pay?
I'm with everyone else. Consulting is not where I want to be. I'm a licensed engineer as well, and I have zero interest in consulting.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:32 am to lnomm34
I'm not sure anyone else mentioned this, and without knowing all the little details if your situation, I personally wouldn't negotiate a raise off another offer unless I was willing to take the offer. They may sense that you don't really want the job and call your bluff. It may generate some bitterness between you and your employer that wasn't there before. That said, I would stay put based on what you have disclosed. Mo Money Mo Problems
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:34 am to SaintTiger80
They are low balling you. Are you electrical? I manage the electrical group for a small consulting firm and hire Electrical PEs in Houston with 5-10 years experience @$135-$145k and we rarely have to work overtime. Let me know if you want to talk.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:37 am to SaintTiger80
I'll keep it short....I think you'd be nuts to leave your current job.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:04 am to SaintTiger80
I'm an engineer on the consulting side and I'd kill for a job on the owner's side that was low stress and great benefits.
My current job is low stress and decent benefits but I absolutely hate trying to find a charge # for every minute of the day, especially during slow periods.
My current job is low stress and decent benefits but I absolutely hate trying to find a charge # for every minute of the day, especially during slow periods.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:26 pm to baldona
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Because a true 55 hour regular work week sucks.
5- 11's? that ain't shite.
try 75 to 80 a week. or better yet do 7-12's or 7-14's.
we did 98 hours a week( 7-14s) on one project for about 6 months with plenty engineers. ya'll are soft AF.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:41 pm to Fat Bastard
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5- 11's? that ain't shite.
try 75 to 80 a week. or better yet do 7-12's or 7-14's.
we did 98 hours a week( 7-14s) on one project for about 6 months with plenty engineers. ya'll are soft AF.
If you are an employee, you dumb af working that much for someone else. If you're the employer, you cheap as shite for not hiring more people.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:25 pm to SaintTiger80
Different industries, but I switched from being an attorney billing hours to an attorney in house at a construction company and my life is significantly better.
I can’t imagine having to bill hours again for only a $30k raise, especially when you may have one of those coming in the next 2-4 years.
You won’t always get this advice, but I’d stay in your comfort zone in this situation.
I can’t imagine having to bill hours again for only a $30k raise, especially when you may have one of those coming in the next 2-4 years.
You won’t always get this advice, but I’d stay in your comfort zone in this situation.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:29 pm to Fat Bastard
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5- 11's? that ain't shite.
try 75 to 80 a week. or better yet do 7-12's or 7-14's.
we did 98 hours a week( 7-14s) on one project for about 6 months with plenty engineers. ya'll are soft AF.
Some people want to enjoy their life with their families
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:59 pm to Fat Bastard
I think most everyone COULD do it.
But no one here wants to do that miserable schedule. Get up off that high horse.
But no one here wants to do that miserable schedule. Get up off that high horse.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:07 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Some people want to enjoy their life with their families .
Yep! Amazing how we've been conditioned to ignore the fact that the most valuable commodity on this planet is TIME. All in the pursuit of material things that we can't take with us. As my mother told me, "I've never heard of anyone laying on their death bed and wishing that they'd worked more."
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:24 pm to Fat Bastard
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Fat Bastard
Sorry but that sounds absolutely miserable. frick that schedule.
OP I’d stick to where you are as basically everyone else recommended.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:43 pm to SaintTiger80
I'd stay put.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:46 pm to SaintTiger80
Everyone, thanks for the comments and advice! It was good to hear people have some of the same thoughts that had.
I politely declined for the final time this morning. It's a good problem to have.. so I'm fortunate.
I knew it didn't make sense for me to take the job. I just never thought I would ever turn my nose up to an extra 27k!
I politely declined for the final time this morning. It's a good problem to have.. so I'm fortunate.
I knew it didn't make sense for me to take the job. I just never thought I would ever turn my nose up to an extra 27k!
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:48 pm to ThermoDynamicTiger
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I personally wouldn't negotiate a raise off another offer unless I was willing to take the offer.
This was my view as well! I think there might be a way to present it so it's not an ultimatum, but I didn't want to try.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:51 pm to ATOlurker
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Are you electrical?
No, degree is in petroleum engineering and I work in natural gas pipelines. Got my PE taking the mechanical (thermal and fluid systems) exam.
Kind of wish I would have done ChemE or EE now that I'm working, but it's worked out well for me so far.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:53 pm
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