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re: Do not understand notion Howard left bc of Daniels
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:18 am to chuggachugga
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:18 am to chuggachugga
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Please cite any statistic at all that shows Daniels somehow being responsible for or capable of 5-6 TD a game… because that’s the requirement to beat uga, bama, vols, and likely both Mississippi teams…
A quick look at our 2022 scoreboard says you're a moron.
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:20 am to MarlboroTiger
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There’s no contradiction, Walker left because he believed he was going to be QB3 again and Nuss can still leave in the spring when he sees he’s not going to be the starter again
But why would Nuss leave in the spring if he has a clear path to QB1 in 2024 with WH gone? He's not leaving in the spring and starting at any program of relevance in 2023.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:34 am to tigerpawl
No, he didn't get scared. He QUIT to take the easier road!
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:53 am to GeauxTigers1410
"Tell Mikie I always like him - it wasn't personal - it was business".
And I always thought it'd be Clemenza.
And I always thought it'd be Clemenza.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:42 am to GeauxTigers1410
I don't understand how you don't understand the notion, with all due respect to your point. Yes, Nuss has more eligibility left than Daniels, but I think Howard might have thought he could beat out Nuss by next fall. But when Daniels returned, he knew that was gonna be the guy, and wanted no part pf sitting another year, is what I suspect happened. And at least he would have known that if he didn't beat out Nuss immediately, he was always a bad performance by, or injury to Nuss away from getting his shot. That's not the case with Daniels back.
And I'm not saying this to complain about Daniels' decision. I'm happy he's back, and that we still (at least for now) have Nuss. But if Howard were hinging his decision on whether or not Nuss came back, that would indicate that he never thought he could beat him out, and if that's what he thought, why would he have committed here in the first place?
And I'm not saying this to complain about Daniels' decision. I'm happy he's back, and that we still (at least for now) have Nuss. But if Howard were hinging his decision on whether or not Nuss came back, that would indicate that he never thought he could beat him out, and if that's what he thought, why would he have committed here in the first place?
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:55 am to Goldrush25
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But why would Nuss leave in the spring if he has a clear path to QB1 in 2024 with WH gone? He's not leaving in the spring and starting at any program of relevance in 2023.
Not sure why so many think Nuss is leaving in spring. He’s not leaving.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:06 pm to Goldrush25
quote:There was no chance for him to be QB2 with JD and Nuss here. QB1 is JD and Nuss would be QB2, no competition.
If he thought he was good enough to beat out Nuss he would've stayed. One snap away from being starter in that scenario.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 7:27 pm to Goldrush25
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But why would Nuss leave in the spring if he has a clear path to QB1 in 2024 with WH gone?
Why did Bo Nix leave Auburn?
Why did Caleb Williams leave Okla?
Why did Spenser Rattler leave Okla?
Why did Quin Ewers leave OSU?
Why did JD leave Az St?
Starters and QBs in line to be starters have other reasons than just starting
* Coaching change (LSU check)
* Change in offense (LSU check)
* NIL deal
* Closer to home
* Increased game reps
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:04 pm to Metaloctopus
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But if Howard were hinging his decision on whether or not Nuss came back, that would indicate that he never thought he could beat him out, and if that's what he thought, why would he have committed here in the first place?
I don’t think Howard is as advanced in his abilities as he thought he was coming out of high school and Nuss has developed more this season than he expected. I think you are right that he thought he’d have a chance to start in 2023, but he’s not being honest with himself now if he’s really leaving because of 2023. It’s much more likely that he sees he has a lot of ground to make up on Nuss and he’d be facing the real possibility of not being the starter until 2026.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:05 pm to RobbBobb
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Starters and QBs in line to be starters have other reasons than just starting * Coaching change (LSU check) * Change in offense (LSU check) * NIL deal * Closer to home * Increased game reps
Not one of those would apply to LSU next season.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:11 pm to Metaloctopus
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I don't understand how you don't understand the notion, with all due respect to your point. Yes, Nuss has more eligibility left than Daniels, but I think Howard might have thought he could beat out Nuss by next fall. But when Daniels returned, he knew that was gonna be the guy, and wanted no part pf sitting another year, is what I suspect happened. And at least he would have known that if he didn't beat out Nuss immediately, he was always a bad performance by, or injury to Nuss away from getting his shot. That's not the case with Daniels back.
He's not going to start anywhere else in 2023, he's delusional if he thinks he is.
If he was going to be a backup no matter what, then go ahead, beat out Nuss and be backup here at LSU.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:12 pm to Metaloctopus
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and if that's what he thought, why would he have committed here in the first place?
You're bringing deductive reasoning here? To this bunch of idiots? During the biggest MELT this board's had all season?
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with all due respect to your point.
And showing respect for others' opinions?!
This is not the place. At LEAST give it a few weeks if you really want to try to have reasoned discussion here. Most of these posters are having a conniption right now and are overcome with rage and venom at the decision of a 19 year old kid.
Try back later.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:28 pm to p226
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You're bringing deductive reasoning here?
Let’s play that reasoning out. He came here knowing Nuss was here, which means he either thought at the time he could beat out Nuss or he thought Nuss would leave. Let’s take for granted that the implication is correct that his opinion hasn’t changed on those points in the last year. If he still thought he could beat out Nuss or that Nuss would leave, why would he not just believe he would beat Nuss out for QB2 in the Spring or wait to see if he leaves? Deductive reasoning therefore leads to the conclusion that he has more likely changed his mind about one or both of those points and that is why he is leaving. He doesn’t now think he can beat Nuss (or at least isn’t certain enough that he can) and he believes Nuss is likely to stay through 2024 and maybe even 2025.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:56 am to Jester
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A quick look at our 2022 scoreboard says you're a moron.
Oh? How many did uga put up? How about the vols?
You should probably rethink your strategy simp …
Judging by the margin of victory uga, bama, and uga enjoyed last year for most games …
All are capable of 50-60pts
Statistics don’t lie.
Since you don’t seem to understand modern football- running teams can’t score fast enough and this guy we have can’t pass… couldn’t pass 4 years ago… can’t pass today.
So unless you have an unrealistic expectation of Lsu holding the entire sec west to 3 td a game…
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 3:09 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:16 am to RobbBobb
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When Kelly arrived he had Brennan, Nuss, and Walker. So why go after JD? Its because he wants a system QB Brennan and Howard left because of "the system" that requires a Daniels Nuss will soon follow, because his skill set requires a different playbook than Daniels. Kelly isnt going to change his playbook that has made him marginally successful since 2007. Thats exactly what we hated about Les at the end
So you’re shitting on Daniels AND Coach Kelly for Howard quitting running away from competition?
Idiot. Never change Rant. Never.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:11 am to GeauxTigers1410
Howard was told he would receive 50% of 1st team reps during spring, summer, & fall workouts while Nuss would receive the other 50% of snaps, creating a true opportunity for each QB to compete for the starting possition.
Daniels coming back will not allow for that.
Daniels coming back will not allow for that.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:15 am to GeauxTigers1410
Agree! In the end, its every kids dream to be a nfl player and Howard had to do what is best for him. He had two qualified QBs in front of him. Wish him the very best! Not so sure he didn't leave because of BK
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:13 am to Metaloctopus
quote:Simple. He wasn't starting next season no matter what. Daniel's status was/ is irrelevant.
don't understand how you don't understand the notion, with all due respect to your point.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:39 am to AlxTgr
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Simple. He wasn't starting next season no matter what. Daniel's status was/ is irrelevant.
To this point, I will ask again: If Howard saw Nuss as ultimately being the guy he couldn't beat out, then why would he have even committed here? I think a strong spring could certainly have vaulted him over the top. So it seems more logical that the return of Daniels, as the incumbent starter, would be more of a road block. If he has so little confidence in himself that he doesn't think he can beat out a kid with 0 career starts and 141 pass attempts, then I don't know why he would believe he could start anywhere for any kind of decent team.
Whether or not you or I believe he can, is not relevant to the discussion. Howard is the one who can control how hard he's willing to work to get where he wants to be, and I find it hard to believe that he absolutely saw no way of beating out Nussmeier
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 7:41 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:05 am to BigNastyTiger417
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Howard was told he would receive 50% of 1st team reps during spring, summer, & fall workouts while Nuss would receive the other 50% of snaps, creating a true opportunity for each QB to compete for the starting possition.
And you know this how? I find it hard to believe that CBK would promise this if he didn't even *know* if JD was coming back or not.
Also, you're trying to say that WH stands a better chance of starting at a new school in 2023? He wasn't good enough to get off the scout team but he's going to possibly start at a P5 program next year? Makes no sense.
Wherever he lands, he's more or less going to be in the same situation he was in here.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 8:09 am
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