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stage 4 liver cirrhosis
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:42 pm
my brother was just diagnosed with stage 4 cirrhosis of the liver. He is to see a specialist next. how bad is this? he’s only 45. im in shock. anyone got any hopefully stories?
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:44 pm to tigertrueAU
Alcohol?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:44 pm to tigertrueAU
I have a friend that has it, he’s 60. Alcoholic
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:45 pm to Grievous Angel
yes, been a serious drinker for years. he’s been sober now for about 4 months but the damage has been done.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:46 pm to tigertrueAU
I'm really sorry to hear that. I'll definitely pray for your brother tonight.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:46 pm to tigertrueAU
Will probably need to be put on a transplant list. That will be determined by his meld score..
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:46 pm to tigertrueAU
Sorry man. It’s not good. If it’s alcohol related, he won’t get a transplant most likely. I’d say it’s probably 50/50 he makes it a year. And that’s if he does it all right from here.
I’ll say a prayer. Again, so sorry for your whole family
I’ll say a prayer. Again, so sorry for your whole family
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:46 pm to tigertrueAU
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how bad is this?
It's bad.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:47 pm to tigertrueAU
Dude is hitting the booze hard. Hope he gets help
EDIT: Sounds like he already quit. Best of luck to him
EDIT: Sounds like he already quit. Best of luck to him
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:47 pm to tigertrueAU
Possibility of getting a transplant if he's healthy enough to survive, but you'll have to consult with a specialist to see if he's a candidate.
He'll likely start to get really weak too as his ammonia levels climb, and probably need to take lactulose which will make him have bad stomach problems. The ammonia is released through the crap.
He'll likely start to get really weak too as his ammonia levels climb, and probably need to take lactulose which will make him have bad stomach problems. The ammonia is released through the crap.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:48 pm to tigertrueAU
I have a family member who contracted Hep C from a blood transfusion in the Army. It destroyed his liver, but he was the first person in the state to be prescribed Harvoni which cured him. He went on to have a transplant and is still kicking today. He goes to work every day.
A bad liver is a unique set of health issues. It can mess with your mind and everything else when your numbers go haywire. A transplant is worth it if you can get him to that point. If he wants it.
It is a hell of a fight.
A bad liver is a unique set of health issues. It can mess with your mind and everything else when your numbers go haywire. A transplant is worth it if you can get him to that point. If he wants it.
It is a hell of a fight.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:48 pm to tigertrueAU
I suggest you google stage 4 cirrhosis of the liver life expectancy.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:48 pm to IT_Dawg
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If it’s alcohol related, he won’t get a transplant most likely.
You can get one but have to be sober for a long time
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:50 pm to Cosmo
quote:
You can get one but have to be sober for a long time
Yep. There are hoops to jump through even without the alcoholism.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:50 pm to tigertrueAU
I am very sorry to hear this and will pray for your brother. Stage 4 cirrhosis is about as bad as it gets but a transplant is a possibility. The five year survival rate after a transplant is about 75%.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:51 pm to hellsu
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I suggest you google stage 4 cirrhosis of the liver life expectancy.
Lactulose can help extend your life on it, but you end up taking it several times a day, and it really upsets your stomoach. You end up running to the toilet all day.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:51 pm to tigertrueAU
If it is truly stage 4 the liver has failed and not going to heal. Our livers are amazing, and your liver tissue can regenerate but when you get to stage 4 start looking into getting comfortable end of life.
Now, I find some doctors may exaggerate their staging in things like this. I don't know if it is to put the fear of God into someone or what other motive they may have. The panels and testing clearly puts things in another category and they go with the most extreme options... but it is always the doctors call in the end on what they call it. Looking at liver panels over time would be hugely helpful, and any imaging they have done on the liver.
Now, I find some doctors may exaggerate their staging in things like this. I don't know if it is to put the fear of God into someone or what other motive they may have. The panels and testing clearly puts things in another category and they go with the most extreme options... but it is always the doctors call in the end on what they call it. Looking at liver panels over time would be hugely helpful, and any imaging they have done on the liver.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:52 pm to tigertrueAU
This underscores the importance of blood work every 6 months; especially for people that drink more than 6 drinks daily.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:53 pm to Oates Mustache
I’d also add that if approved to receive a transplant, inquire about being on multiple list. The requirements are distance based so more densely populated regions have more opportunities..
My father received a transplant and it gave him 7 more years..
ETA..He also needs to have a endoscope done to check for varices..
My father received a transplant and it gave him 7 more years..
ETA..He also needs to have a endoscope done to check for varices..
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:54 pm to Oates Mustache
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Lactulose can help extend your life on it, but you end up taking it several times a day, and it really upsets your stomoach. You end up running to the toilet all day.
Man, oh man.....Lactulose....whew!
My cousin took it for over three years. He carried two spare pair of underwear in his car at all times. He used them, too.
Even with it, your ammonia levels can get out of hand. Several times he ended up in the ER out of his mind.
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