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Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:32 pm to tigertrueAU
I lost a brother at 47 to it.
Ugly way to go, as he had varices, then a liver stent. The stent gave him 2 more years of a deteriorating life.
Transplants are not for alcoholics. Unless you're OT rich and have connections on the black market, forget it.
Ugly way to go, as he had varices, then a liver stent. The stent gave him 2 more years of a deteriorating life.
Transplants are not for alcoholics. Unless you're OT rich and have connections on the black market, forget it.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:40 pm to AMS
My dad passed about 2 months ago from liver cancer. Not a drinker.
He was diabetic and was seen by an internist for 13 years, drawing blood every 3 months
Back in April his legs and feet swole up and he went to see the internist. They sent him straight to the ER. They did a CT and said he had cirrhosis. He didn’t drink.
The fluid was ascites, which is 3rd stage of cirrhosis. A better image from a more legit facility revealed he had cancerous tumors that were secondary to cirrhosis he had for likely 4-5 years.
They suspect Fatty Liver Disease went undiagnosed. The hepatic encephalopathy is a bitch once you navigate the ascites.
He was diabetic and was seen by an internist for 13 years, drawing blood every 3 months
Back in April his legs and feet swole up and he went to see the internist. They sent him straight to the ER. They did a CT and said he had cirrhosis. He didn’t drink.
The fluid was ascites, which is 3rd stage of cirrhosis. A better image from a more legit facility revealed he had cancerous tumors that were secondary to cirrhosis he had for likely 4-5 years.
They suspect Fatty Liver Disease went undiagnosed. The hepatic encephalopathy is a bitch once you navigate the ascites.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:41 pm to wahoocs
Take milk thistle, amazing what it can do to improve your levels
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:41 pm to tigertrueAU
Im sorry to hear that. I lost a friend to it. Unfortunately it’s very serious if state 4.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:42 pm to AMS
Have a family member with NASH (non-alcoholic fatty liver disease) who was an adult-onset diabetic, but was never really compliant with maintaining safe blood sugar levels over the course of 25 years or so, became obese, not terrible, but continued to work a full time job/profession until retirement.
A few years later, liver got so bad that that person is now in a nursing home with dementia and on lactulose to decrease ammonia levels to have some degree of functionality.
The family has been pretty upset with this person's downturn in health initially, but is ultimately coping fairly well, but the question is, how long can this person continue on and what to expect from here on out.
Anyone have advice or experience?
A few years later, liver got so bad that that person is now in a nursing home with dementia and on lactulose to decrease ammonia levels to have some degree of functionality.
The family has been pretty upset with this person's downturn in health initially, but is ultimately coping fairly well, but the question is, how long can this person continue on and what to expect from here on out.
Anyone have advice or experience?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:43 pm to tgrbaitn08
What’s his name?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:43 pm to Oates Mustache
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Lactulose can help extend your life on it, but you end up taking it several times a day, and it really upsets your stomoach. You end up running to the toilet all day.
I did not mean to come across as cruel but there are so many variables involved with survival rates and the differences of compensated and decompensated cirrhosis that survival from stage 4 can be from mere weeks to several years.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:45 pm to Lieutenant Dan
recommend serious investment in prayer and meditations. there are many. learn some and share with him. end game can be much nicer. aldous Huxley wrote a book covering the world's great religions. a chapter on each.
if he's totally christian the eastern orthodox have some excellent how to books on heart prayer.
if he's totally christian the eastern orthodox have some excellent how to books on heart prayer.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:52 pm to CelticDog
Call here. Best transplant place around.
Family friend got cirrhosis (non drinking) he was days from death and went here as a last ditch effort. Had a new liver in 3 days.
Family friend got cirrhosis (non drinking) he was days from death and went here as a last ditch effort. Had a new liver in 3 days.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:56 pm to tigertrueAU
If your brother is anywhere in the South, he needs to head to Ochsner in New Orleans. They have one of the best liver transplant teams in the country.
Also, research dictates there is no correlation between length of time sober and recidivism rates. Therefore, Ochsner has no set sobriety time frame. Patients just need to be committed to remaining sober post transplant.
Best of luck to your brother and his family!
Also, research dictates there is no correlation between length of time sober and recidivism rates. Therefore, Ochsner has no set sobriety time frame. Patients just need to be committed to remaining sober post transplant.
Best of luck to your brother and his family!
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:57 pm to SabiDojo
I hope this thread is a wakeup call for a few OTers. The self reported alcohol intake of some on here is astonishing.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:59 pm to tgrbaitn08
If you paid out of pocket what would something like that run?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:03 pm to 225Tyga
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What’s his name?
You wouldn’t believe me even if I told you
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:09 pm to James11111
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This underscores the importance of blood work every 6 months; especially for people that drink more than 6 drinks daily.
A friend thought he was a slightly above normal drinker, but had blood work done that showed he was 40x the upper limit normal for AST and it was more than 2x his ALT. He stopped drinking immediately and the numbers fell. Without that bloodwork he was well on his way to cirrhosis at age 39.
The liver is a remarkable organ that has amazing abilities to heal, but once you attack it too much it is a wretched way to live (or die).
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:14 pm to boosiebadazz
well he drank in college like most do but i would say about 20 years ago in his first marriage he started hitting the stuff hard and his wife left him because of it. most of us, as in all of us really didn’t think he was as bad as she was saying. he clearly hid things well. second wife left him singing the same song as the first wife. we then truly began to take notice. i then found out about a year and a half ago he was drinking as early as 7am, daily.
i confronted him but he said he was in control. clearly not. then he was diagnosed with hepatitis of the liver, he kept drinking. then 3 weeks after that, the day before memorial day he got a DUI at 2pm. he blew 4 times over the legal limit.
he hasn’t drank anything since then. partly because he has to blow to start his truck and blow in a little device at home 4 times a day or risk losing time with his kids. had gallbladder removed 2 weeks ago. doctor told me in waiting room his liver was ba and looked like he had cirrhosis. biopsy came back today confirming he did, stage 4.
working from home the past 2 years did him not favors. dude confided in me how dark it’s been for him. makes a good living over 6 figures, and as long as his “team” was getting it done nothing was ever questioned.
he’s been drinking 20 drinks a day for years, hardly eats.
i confronted him but he said he was in control. clearly not. then he was diagnosed with hepatitis of the liver, he kept drinking. then 3 weeks after that, the day before memorial day he got a DUI at 2pm. he blew 4 times over the legal limit.
he hasn’t drank anything since then. partly because he has to blow to start his truck and blow in a little device at home 4 times a day or risk losing time with his kids. had gallbladder removed 2 weeks ago. doctor told me in waiting room his liver was ba and looked like he had cirrhosis. biopsy came back today confirming he did, stage 4.
working from home the past 2 years did him not favors. dude confided in me how dark it’s been for him. makes a good living over 6 figures, and as long as his “team” was getting it done nothing was ever questioned.
he’s been drinking 20 drinks a day for years, hardly eats.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:16 pm to go ta hell ole miss
May I ask a question on this subject? I have known many years people that died of alcohol abuse. Each was always a hard liquor drinker. Most were vodka or whiskey. What are these people consuming?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:21 pm to tigertrueAU
Man that's sad. My best friend and the best man in my wedding died about 6 years ago at 39. He was well in his way to drinking himself to death. Lost his wife and kids over it. Had a very good job as a chemist in a big company. Should have been set for life. After the divorce started adding pills of some kind to his enormous drinking habit and I guess OD'd one morning. GF found him face down on his floor at 9am. Dead as dillinger.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:26 pm to LilDeuceCoupe
wine, liquor, beer from 16 to 43 but
the last 2 years, lime flavored vodka and white claws, like 15 a day.
always referred to it as “drinking my waters”.
the last 2 years, lime flavored vodka and white claws, like 15 a day.
always referred to it as “drinking my waters”.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:34 pm to tigertrueAU
My dad died from non-alcoholic cirrhosis because he had a heart transplant 10 years prior. The same medicines that were keeping him alive, destroyed his liver.
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