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re: stage 4 liver cirrhosis
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:55 pm to James11111
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:55 pm to James11111
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especially for people that drink more than 6 drinks daily.
Jesus, I thought I boozed a lot.
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:55 pm to tigertrueAU
Sad to hear. It takes a long time of heavy drinking to get that far gone. Sadly he probably needs to get his will and affairs in order quickly.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:55 pm to tigertrueAU
I'm sorry to hear that. It's awful. A friend of mine passed away earlier this year from it. He was only 42. He was a heavy drinker though.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:57 pm to Cosmo
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You can get one but have to be sober for a long time
A wealthy friend of mine that drinks a lot always jokes that livers are cheap in India. He's half joking but the dude is a little off and I wouldn't put it past him to go to a foreign country to get one if needed.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:57 pm to James11111
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people that drink more than 6 drinks daily.
Other than water, I imagine 6 drinks of any one thing, whether alcohol or not, can't really be good for the body.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:58 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Man, oh man.....Lactulose....whew!
My cousin took it for over three years. He carried two spare pair of underwear in his car at all times. He used them, too.
Even with it, your ammonia levels can get out of hand. Several times he ended up in the ER out of his mind.
Yep. It's a pretty great life-extending medication, but it has the nasty side-effect of shitting yourself. And actually, that effect is needed because that's where the ammonia is released. So it's a double edged sword.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:59 pm to McCaigBro69
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especially for people that drink more than 6 drinks daily.
Jesus, I thought I boozed a lot.
no this is serious drinking, like more than a bottle a day.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:59 pm to tigertrueAU
Offhand, my guess is that he needs a liver transplant and he needs to change his fricking lifestyle.
If you have that, you are either an alcoholic or you have other issues going on attacking the liver such as hepatitis.
If you have that, you are either an alcoholic or you have other issues going on attacking the liver such as hepatitis.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:59 pm to McCaigBro69
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Jesus, I thought I boozed a lot.
People that get cirrhosis from alcohol are usually drinking 20+ drinks daily for years; although genetics certainly play a part. some people can drink a 12-pack a day for 50 years.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:03 pm to tigertrueAU
I knew a guy that was on his deathbed in his late 30s because of liver damage. He drank straight vodka everyday. He was able to recover, and left the hospital. However, he couldn't stop drinking and died from it in 2006.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:03 pm to James11111
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especially for people that drink more than 6 drinks daily.
Even though I can’t imagine drinking that much, it has to take way more than that to reach stage 4. These people wake up in the morning and grab a handle of vodka.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:03 pm to Oates Mustache
Cirrhosis is a strange beast.. in reality it’s luck of the draw.. only 15 or so percent of people who drink to much will suffer consequences.. most people regardless of consumption amounts will never have to worry.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:05 pm to tigertrueAU
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yes, been a serious drinker for years.
Define serious
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:05 pm to tigertrueAU
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yes, been a serious drinker for years.
Dude 44 is very young to be a serious drinker for years to already have stage 4 cirrhosis.
Just curious how much was he drinking and when did he start?
I’m sorry y’all have to deal with this. 44 is extremely young.
I know a very wealthy man, probably close to in his 70’s now that was a big time drinker, party guy, hookers, blow, you name it, but he lived that life for 40 years with a silver spoon in his mouth.
He had a liver transplant about 15-20 years ago but he had enough money to skip the line.
I see him at lunch a couple times a week and I swear he is scared to death to sip an ounce of alcohol knowing it would kill him.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:16 pm to tigertrueAU
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yes, been a serious drinker for years.
What does a "serious drinker" look like? Asking for a friend.
I had a high school friend who was given very little hope from the doctor. But now he's on the mend, but is consuming zero alcohol.
I sometimes wonder if Doctors don't lean toward the "scared straight" tactics.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:20 pm to Oates Mustache
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You end up running to the toilet all day.
its therapeutic shite, no pun intended.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:24 pm to Grievous Angel
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I sometimes wonder if Doctors don't lean toward the "scared straight" tactics.
In my experience, not when it comes to a stage 4 diagnosis because your options are very limited and you start suggesting end-of-life, palliative care planning.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:25 pm to tigertrueAU
My dad had it and my wife's aunt had it.
Wife's aunt was able to get a liver transplant and is doing great, she wouldn't still be here without it. She wasn't a drinker at all, not sure how she ended up with cirrhosis.
My dad was a heavy drinker for a very long time. He was in and out of the hospital quite a bit and constantly having to get the fluid drained. When the fluid would build up, he would be completely out of it mentally due to the ammonia. He would say things that made no sense at all. But the day after getting it drained, he would be back to normal. And by normal, I mean very weak and no energy.
He had so many health issues to go along with it, no Dr was ever going to waste their time giving him a liver transplant. He eventually died from it after a couple years. Honestly, he was ready to go and welcomed it. He was miserable dealing with it and didn't care to fight it anymore.
Wife's aunt was able to get a liver transplant and is doing great, she wouldn't still be here without it. She wasn't a drinker at all, not sure how she ended up with cirrhosis.
My dad was a heavy drinker for a very long time. He was in and out of the hospital quite a bit and constantly having to get the fluid drained. When the fluid would build up, he would be completely out of it mentally due to the ammonia. He would say things that made no sense at all. But the day after getting it drained, he would be back to normal. And by normal, I mean very weak and no energy.
He had so many health issues to go along with it, no Dr was ever going to waste their time giving him a liver transplant. He eventually died from it after a couple years. Honestly, he was ready to go and welcomed it. He was miserable dealing with it and didn't care to fight it anymore.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:25 pm to Oates Mustache
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I sometimes wonder if Doctors don't lean toward the "scared straight" tactics.
In my experience, not when it comes to a stage 4 diagnosis because your options are very limited and you start suggesting end-of-life, palliative care planning.
yea there's a time and place for scared straight tactics. if done appropriately can be very impactful. If done at wrong times youre just an a-hole.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:28 pm to tigertrueAU
Not good. This happened to someone I knew, died.
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