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More important nominee be someone other than Trump--DeSantis possible road to nomination
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:18 am
Clearly Cheney intends to position herself as the voice of the never Trumpers and stated her goal is to keep Trump from the office of President. This means she is perfectly willing to organize a third party run for somebody to siphon enough votes from Trump if he is the republican nominee to elect a democrat President. Trump has never won the popular vote and even a half assed third party run would end any electoral college chances he would have.
DeSantis if he has the organizational team has a pretty good path to the nomination. Here is why.
Polling shows Hispanics are voting republican in strong numbers. DeSantis could take advantage of that to win FL, TX, AZ and CA primaries. After that it is uphill for Trump. In Florida DeSantis has the organization to win straight up. In Texas if he can muster the help of Mayra Flores and possibly Rick Perry he should win. In AZ he doesn't need much help to beat Trump but getting the Navajos on board and motivating the hispanics to vote for him would seal the deal. He would probably be the favorite in CA---his problem there will be having enough money to buy media in what is probably the highest cost media markets in the country.
Meanwhile I read today Trump is having a hard time convincing good law firms to represent him against Garland. It seems he is known to stiff law firms and will not take their advice. Garland needs to put up or shut up but he does "put up" something significant it will not be good for Trump.
DeSantis if he has the organizational team has a pretty good path to the nomination. Here is why.
Polling shows Hispanics are voting republican in strong numbers. DeSantis could take advantage of that to win FL, TX, AZ and CA primaries. After that it is uphill for Trump. In Florida DeSantis has the organization to win straight up. In Texas if he can muster the help of Mayra Flores and possibly Rick Perry he should win. In AZ he doesn't need much help to beat Trump but getting the Navajos on board and motivating the hispanics to vote for him would seal the deal. He would probably be the favorite in CA---his problem there will be having enough money to buy media in what is probably the highest cost media markets in the country.
Meanwhile I read today Trump is having a hard time convincing good law firms to represent him against Garland. It seems he is known to stiff law firms and will not take their advice. Garland needs to put up or shut up but he does "put up" something significant it will not be good for Trump.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 9:33 am
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:21 am to freshfromthefarm
DeSantis loses nothing aligning with Trump and gains everything. They can lose as a ticket in 24 and DeSantis can still win as the head of the ticket in 28.
If DeSantis alienates Trumps base he is unelectable if they stay home.
If DeSantis turns down a VP offer I think it speaks volumes as to which side he is on.
Nobody with a brain is challenging Trump in the Primary. I’m sick of hearing it. I want to bookmark all these threads if/when DeSantis cucks out like Bill Cassidy and all the others.
They are going to Indict Trump on some bullshite, and if DeSantis steps in to primary him and use that, it tells you all you need to know about if he is an establishment plant.
If DeSantis is on the up and up he will focus on Florida and keep his nose down until 28 under those circumstances.
Book it
If DeSantis alienates Trumps base he is unelectable if they stay home.
If DeSantis turns down a VP offer I think it speaks volumes as to which side he is on.
Nobody with a brain is challenging Trump in the Primary. I’m sick of hearing it. I want to bookmark all these threads if/when DeSantis cucks out like Bill Cassidy and all the others.
They are going to Indict Trump on some bullshite, and if DeSantis steps in to primary him and use that, it tells you all you need to know about if he is an establishment plant.
If DeSantis is on the up and up he will focus on Florida and keep his nose down until 28 under those circumstances.
Book it
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:21 am to freshfromthefarm
Did you steal the script from CNN for today?
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:22 am to freshfromthefarm
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:22 am to freshfromthefarm
Liz Cheney is practically a zero threat. She would get less votes than Evan McMullin did in 2016. I wouldn't worry about her at all.
Now when she gets on MSNBC and CNN or the View she will bash Trump and his supporters and that will make news. But she is not getting any votes to make any kind of impact on the 2024 presidential race.
Now when she gets on MSNBC and CNN or the View she will bash Trump and his supporters and that will make news. But she is not getting any votes to make any kind of impact on the 2024 presidential race.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:24 am to freshfromthefarm
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Meanwhile I read today Trump is having a hard time convincing good law firms to represent him agains Garland.
Because we're in a banana republic, now, and the DOJ targets Trump's lawyers and the entire attorney/client privilege of Trump.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:29 am to freshfromthefarm
If she can't see her voice on the J6 committee, even with all the slick marketing and production, has been widely ignored by the voting bloc she believes she is running for, than she is just as delusional and ignorant as the dems she heels to.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:33 am to freshfromthefarm
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Trump has never won the popular vote
So? The POTUS isn’t selected by popular vote.
That’s like arguing whoever had the most first downs should win a football game after they were out scored. If the goal was to get more first downs, you would have obviously played the game differently to do so.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:34 am to freshfromthefarm
Why are we still talking about Liz?
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:39 am to freshfromthefarm
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Clearly Cheney intends to position herself as the voice of the never Trumpers and stated her goal is to keep Trump from the office of President. This means she is perfectly willing to organize a third party run for somebody to siphon enough votes from Trump if he is the republican nominee to elect a democrat President.
That's only a viable scenario for those whose grasp of reality is so tenuous that they also believe in the Easter Bunny.
Liz Cheney became toxic last night because she wasn't beaten, she was fricking humiliated. Being beaten by 37.4 points is to be curb-stomped, politically.
She'll be the CNN and/or MSNBC darling for a while, may even drift over to FNC for a bit but her political career is effectively over in Wyoming. She might draw some Never-Trumpers if she tries to run for President, but my guess is her campaign will run out of steam before even reaching the convention (see: Kamala).
DeSantis is strong and stern, but he's not abrasive like Trump. Because of that I think Never-Trumpers will likely either sit out or move to DeSantis as their strong dislike for Trump is primarily his presentation (with other reasons flowing from that foundational dislike). Very few will rally behind Liz The Loser (I'm waiting for Trump to use that one).
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:40 am to freshfromthefarm
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Meanwhile I read today Trump is having a hard time convincing good law firms to represent him against Garland.
let me guess…anonymous sauces told this to WAPO or the NYT?This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:42 am to freshfromthefarm
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Trump has never won the popular vote
He won it in 2020 , and got the most votes in the history of presidential elections . Gained 10 million more voters from 16-20, and was the ONLY president in the history of the country to gain votes in his reelection bid . No president ever running for reelection has ever done this
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:43 am to freshfromthefarm
Both Trump and Desantis have proven themselves of being able to plop their balls on the table in the face of Democratic blowback. Both are fearless. Until someone else comes along that won't do a 180 after they get elected, I'll think I'll stay pat with either of these two.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:45 am to freshfromthefarm
People don’t need to underestimate the Boomers that look at the times when the Bushes were in power as “The Good Ole Days.” Yeah this is a board of Millennials and Gen Xers, so obviously none of us are going to vote for her, but don’t underestimate the stupidity and selfishness of the Boomers.
At least Millennials are self aware enough to know we’re a shitty generation, but the Boomers are oblivious and get super pissed if you point this out that they are a super shitty generation. While Boomers say they deserved everything and were amazing, Millennials will be like this with their kids when their kids grow up:
Tim Dillon: The American Party Is fricking Over
At least Millennials are self aware enough to know we’re a shitty generation, but the Boomers are oblivious and get super pissed if you point this out that they are a super shitty generation. While Boomers say they deserved everything and were amazing, Millennials will be like this with their kids when their kids grow up:
Tim Dillon: The American Party Is fricking Over
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:50 am to freshfromthefarm
Trump is the one who organized all these RINO defeats you dumbass.
If there were problems with Trump’s popularity or likability, these MAGA candidates would be getting decimated.
Even with Democratic crossovers in Arizona and Wyoming, Trump prevailed.
If Trump doesn’t run or get the nomination, I’ll still vote for that person over anything the kid diddler party ever puts up.
You guys that Trump broke need to take a sabbatical and locate your sack. I swear some of you are one step from transitioning to full womanhood.
If there were problems with Trump’s popularity or likability, these MAGA candidates would be getting decimated.
Even with Democratic crossovers in Arizona and Wyoming, Trump prevailed.
If Trump doesn’t run or get the nomination, I’ll still vote for that person over anything the kid diddler party ever puts up.
You guys that Trump broke need to take a sabbatical and locate your sack. I swear some of you are one step from transitioning to full womanhood.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:00 am to freshfromthefarm
Cheney would pull more voters from the Left abandoning the Biden ship (or Kamala or fill in blank) than never-Trumpers from the Right.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:09 am to freshfromthefarm
There are 7 articles a day saying those familiar within say that THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN FOR TRUMP.
If DeSantis had 2 to 3 lawsuits riling up in NY, a few grand juries. AND a grand jury in Georgia and Florida he would be done put a fork in him. Even the GOP establishment couldn't afford all the billable hours. Nor would they have the fortitude.
There are several who could run. Richard Grenell, Don Jr., Eric Trump, Lara Trump, Peter Thiel.
Trump needs completely vindicated or none of it can move forward.
The establishment wants Ron to brush it all under the rug and carry on. But they will spit him out like a dog returns to it's vomit in the end,
I won't rest until SpyGate sees all guilty jailed for 30 plus. And the election fraud of 2020 is clearly shown now-not in three years.
The first person I want shown the door is Kevin McCarthy; then they will all fall like dominoes. Kevin the slime, made all kinds of deals to get rid of Liz because she was in his way.
In summation: Let Ron continue to be the best freakin Governor I have seen. He would be ideal when the DC cancer is cleaned up to not tempt him to go to the dark side of the establishment.
If DeSantis had 2 to 3 lawsuits riling up in NY, a few grand juries. AND a grand jury in Georgia and Florida he would be done put a fork in him. Even the GOP establishment couldn't afford all the billable hours. Nor would they have the fortitude.
There are several who could run. Richard Grenell, Don Jr., Eric Trump, Lara Trump, Peter Thiel.
Trump needs completely vindicated or none of it can move forward.
The establishment wants Ron to brush it all under the rug and carry on. But they will spit him out like a dog returns to it's vomit in the end,
I won't rest until SpyGate sees all guilty jailed for 30 plus. And the election fraud of 2020 is clearly shown now-not in three years.
The first person I want shown the door is Kevin McCarthy; then they will all fall like dominoes. Kevin the slime, made all kinds of deals to get rid of Liz because she was in his way.
In summation: Let Ron continue to be the best freakin Governor I have seen. He would be ideal when the DC cancer is cleaned up to not tempt him to go to the dark side of the establishment.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:11 am to freshfromthefarm
If you can tell me what your last account name was on this forum, I’ll read your post.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:58 am to freshfromthefarm
She barely got any support in her home state. She will be Pocahontas 2.0 or the new 1% Liz.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:02 pm to freshfromthefarm
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Trump has never won the popular vote
The popular vote has never been relevant.
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