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re: Can you do one full pull-up?

Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
Not sure of my max, but I typically do 6 sets of 10 weighted (10# plate hanging from a weight belt) 3 days a week. These are my non-lift days. On my lift days, I do 5 sets of 12 unweighted before I go to work.

I'm 53 y.o. and 6 months ago, I would've struggled to do one. March 1 of this year I started Greyskull LP (Aesthetics template) - thank you LSU777 - and push-up and pull-ups "homework" is part of the deal. Installed a Rogue pull-up bar in my exercise room, and it has become my favorite exercise.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
Full extension. Feet pulled up behind me. If not with my long as arms my feet would hit
Posted by BrickBaw
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Member since May 2021
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Cannot touch toes. Cannot do a pull up. I am basically a gelatinous blob of goo, but I've been eating better and starting to work out, so hopefully by this time next year, those answers change.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Do you consider max sprints (sub 10 second max effort) consistent training and how frequently should one do those sorts of efforts?


yea that would be training but needs to be done alot more often than a 3 weeks basis to be considered training. and if you arent doing some form of resistance training, then you arent really training either. just exercising.

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You take this shite pretty seriously


na just messing him somewhat and somewhat point out his excuses are just that.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:24 pm to
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You take this shite pretty seriously


Your health is literally the most serious shite you have
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:25 pm to
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My guess, 25ish real unbroken pullups. I haven't done a max set in a long time, but I did 5 sets of 15 banded on Monday as an accessory exercise.



Why do you lie? Everybody around here knows that you're skinny-fat.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Your health is literally the most serious shite you have


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Why do you lie? Everybody around here knows that you're skinny-fat.


Buddy, I'm just fat. There's nothing skinny about it
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:44 pm to
I can do about 8 unassisted pullups with no breaks when I have 100% of my energy. After that I would need a band and can do about 4 in a row.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:51 pm to
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yea that would be training but needs to be done alot more often than a 3 weeks basis to be considered training. and if you arent doing some form of resistance training, then you arent really training either. just exercising.



For the average person in their 50's?
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:52 pm to
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For someone in their 50's?


Yes dude. 50s isn't that old.

Had you not been lazy for the last 20 years you wouldn't feel old. Tons of guys in their 50s still putting up big weight, running fast marathons, putting out good amounts of power output, etc etc.
Posted by GrapevineTiger
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:00 pm to
4 yesterday and I was impressed with myself. Last year I could not do 1.
Posted by Rize
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:06 pm to
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I am bored AF at work. How many can you do? When is the last time you were able to do one? What physical feat are you proud of? I read recently, maybe from here, that there is a direct correlation between the ability to do about 40 push-ups and cardiovascular health. Some long-term study on firemen. Thought it was pretty cool. Apparently, if you can do 40 push-ups, your risk for cardiovascular disease drops some ridiculous amount. I want to say 98% less likely.



I did 40 this am in between sets on my shoulder workout. Did the first 40 pretty easy but the 2nd 40 was a little tougher at the end of my workout.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:06 pm to
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For the average person in their 50's?


Average as in average American.....that is prolly good. Average as in optimal, would have to be doing sprints 2x a week to really be considered training or part of an overall program if less.

Average American male should do some form of resistance training 2x weekly that involves progressive overload of some form and a minimum of 1 true conditioning session a week like sprinting.

That's in top of just walking daily or swimming or biking....just normal everyday activities as those are not workouts and sure isn't training, that's just exercise and doesn't do a whole lot as far as anti aging. Important yes but if that's the only thing you do....it's not doing ahot for you long term quality of life wise.
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:06 pm to
Could do 7x90lb weighted before an injury
yesterday was 5x5x45lb and finished with 15 bodyweight
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:07 pm to
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Yes dude. 50s isn't that old.



Really? Because many physiologists and trainers have shown that sprinting over 50 leads to significant increases in acute injuries like muscle pulls/tears and sprains. Most do not recommend it.

A much better plan for "masters" level folks (50+) is lower (sub-maximal) level interval training (1-2 min) with significant recovery time between the intervals (3-5 mins) This is due to natural loss of muscle mass and tone of the average person as they age. Can some folks do them safely? Sure. Are those folks average? No.

But you do you.

This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Really? Because many physiologists and trainers have that sprinting over 50 has been shown to significantly increase acute injuries like muscle pulls/tear and sprains.



That would be because they don't Train, i.e. sprint once every 3 weeks

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A much better plan for "masters" level folks (50+) is lower (sub-maximal) level interval training (1-2 min) with significant recovery time between the intervals (3-5_mins) This is due to natural loss of muscle mass and tone of the average person as they age...



All true speed work should be done at full recovery between sets no matter the age.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:12 pm to
I only do pull ups on Weds between kettlebell swings. So, I do 10 sets of 4 reps. I've never done them to failure so I'm not sure how many in a row I could do.

5'9" 155 lbs. Almost 50 yrs old
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:12 pm to
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But you do you.


You keep saying this, but it isn't "you doing you," it's science.

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A much better plan for "masters" level folks is lower (sub-maximal) level interval training (1-2 min) with significant recovery time between the intervals (3-5_mins) This is due to natural loss of muscle mass and tone of the average person as they age...


Is this a cause or effect? Do they need to do submaximal due only to age, or do they need to do submaximal due to the reality of decades of neglect?

Science tells us one thing, but "you do you" and give us your unsubstantiated anecdotal opinion.

The fact is, which this isn't a dig it just is what it is, you are making excuses for your past actions. You neglected to do any training for the last two decades plus. You can run around that fact all you want but it's true
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:13 pm to
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All true speed work should be done at full recovery between sets no matter the age.


bro, you even fartlek?
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