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re: Can you do one full pull-up?
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:06 pm to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:06 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Thanks for the honest reply.
Just as a point of reference, I'll say was likely in the best shape of my life @ close to 40 (the age you are right now). Then the body's natural physiological changes kicked in over the next 10+ years. So come back here in 10 years and talk to us. 50 may not be "old", but nature is a cruel master. When your HGH and testosterone start bottoming out, anything and everything you do (physically) becomes more difficult. Seems like you have to work twice as hard for 1/2 the results.
So as Morpheus said in the Matrix, "There's a difference in knowing the path and walking the path." Hopefully you can stave off some of the effects of time. I hope you do, but everyone's physiology is different. I'm just here to tell you it's not going to be as easy as you think it is.
Good luck.
umm diet and exercise is usually biggest indicators of hormone levels. and if they are below levels, you have anotehr issue, fix it or get on replacement.
and sorry but you are wrong. its just like the people who scream...wait until your metabolism slows down like it does in your 50s....sorry but you only lose less than 25 cal off your BMR per decade once you reach 30. The reason people are fat and weak in their 50s for the most part is because they didnt do shite in their 40s and ate like crap and still do.
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:08 pm to SwampGar
I used to be able to do at least 15 or 20 in my best shape. Now? Probably 5 or 6 full proper form ones. Not that half assed stuff.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:12 pm to lsu777
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and sorry but you are wrong. its just like the people who scream...wait until your metabolism slows down like it does in your 50s....sorry but you only lose less than 25 cal off your BMR per decade once you reach 30. The reason people are fat and weak in their 50s for the most part is because they didnt do shite in their 40s and ate like crap and still do.
Again, talk to me in 10 years.
And FWIW, I'm 5'9" a fluctuate between 175 and 180 (depending on hydration level). That puts my BMI between 25.8 and 26.6. And yes, I'm over weight, but I can also do more that 1 pull up...
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:13 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Again, talk to me in 10 years
again the science is really really clear. sorry you just want to make excuses
answer me this, when was the last time you did a program for 4 weeks or more that was barbell based and had progressive overload built in?
when was the last time you weighed and tracked your food?
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:23 pm to SwampGar
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Can you do one full pull-up?
Yes, maybe a few but not 10+.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:25 pm to lsu777
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again the science is really really clear. sorry you just want to make excuses
answer me this, when was the last time you did a program for 4 weeks or more that was barbell based and had progressive overload built in?
when was the last time you weighed and tracked your food?
Who said, I'm making excuses? I'm just giving one person's experience. Mine. As I said, I hope you can maintain, but I've walked a path you haven't walked yet. And best of luck to you while you're on it.
The last time I did a barbell program, I was in my 20's. But I'm naturally an ectomorph and never really trained for strength. It's just not my strong suit (pun intended). That being said, my predominate muscle type is fast twitch and I'm a natural sprinter to middle distance sort of person. The sports activities I "excelled" at (enjoyed) were mostly outdoor based and ones that needed short bursts of power and quick direction changes. I never had the inclination to hit the gym when I had the great outdoors at my footsteps. I simply went out and did what I was good at. And enjoyed it.
The cyclist Tyler Hamilton had a great quote from his experience at the Olympics. He said, "I never knew there were so many ways to perfect the human body" and it's really true. I don't know because we've never met, but sounds like you've got a really good strength program going. Good for you. But could you go out and run a marathon tomorrow? Or climb a mountain? Or play soccer for an hour non-stop? I could keep going but I think you get the point. Most people train for what their bodies are naturally "designed" for. There's a reason Arnold Schwarzenegger was a body builder, Usain Bolt is a sprinter and Simon Biles is a gymnast.
Again, don't judge people unless you've walked a mile in their shoes. And I'll stand by my initial comment in this thread. Before "judging" someone by how many pullup (or any physical act) they can do, their age is a useful bit of information.
Good luck with your journey.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:27 pm to SwampGar
3 sets of 8 wide grip on my back days 
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:31 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Who said, I'm making excuses? I'm just giving one person's experience. Mine. As I said, I hope you can maintain, but I've walked a path you haven't walked yet. And best of luck to you while you're on it.
i been at it since i was 13, everyone said....wait until you are 30, then it was....wait until you are 40
oh and it was always...better stop lifting those heavy weights, not gonna be able to walk by the time you are 40
always said to me by some obese family member that "knows best"
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The last time I did a barbell program, I was in my 20's. But I'm naturally an ectomorph and never really trained for strength. It's just not my strong suit (pun intended). That being said, my predominate muscle type is fast twitch and I'm a natural sprinter to middle distance sort of person. The sports activates I excelled at were mostly outdoor based and ones that needed short bursts of power and quick direction changes. I never had the inclination to hit the gym when I had the great outdoors at my footsteps. I simply went out and did what I was good at. And enjoyed it.
so when was the last time you did a full real all out sprint? like a true 40 yard dash type as fast as you could?
when we the last time you trained to get better at that>
so you havent done a barbell program in 30+ years and you wonder why you are weak and have a dad bod. have you done any other form of resistance training outside of 12oz curls?
my point is, you havent trained in 30 years yet you are telling me...oh wait until you are 50. its the same thing 40 year olds who are fat and dont train tell 20 year olds.
and you are making excuses, intentional or not and you are rationalizing your own failures of maintaining your health as "natural"
being fat, unathletic and weak in your 50s isnt natural, its just extremely common. There is a big difference
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:34 pm to lsu777
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so when was the last time you did a full real all out sprint? like a true 40 yard dash type as fast as you could?
About 3 weeks ago.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:38 pm to Lonnie Utah
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About 3 weeks ago.
so you dont train consistenly at all, yet you have the audacity to say....wait until you are my age while screaming at the sky
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:39 pm to SwampGar
I do lots of them. At least 100 every chest/back workout.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:39 pm to lsu777
Do you consider max sprints (sub 10 second max effort) consistent training and how frequently should one do those sorts of efforts?
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:40 pm to lsu777
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so you dont train consistenly at all, yet you have the audacity to say....wait until you are my age while screaming at the sky
You take this shite pretty seriously
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:42 pm to FogellLovesHops
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I hate exercising or working out.
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FogellLovesHops
Checks out.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:45 pm to SwampGar
One maybe two
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:52 pm to SwampGar
I can do about 25
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:54 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Same here. I mix 4 sets of 50 pushups 3 nights a week, but I don't have a clue how many, if any, pullups I can do.
I suspect not too many even though I am a skinny squirt.
I suspect not too many even though I am a skinny squirt.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:56 pm to lsu777
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exactly, so many think because they used to do 50 pushups and 10 chin ups in high school....oh thats easy...
And I’d question if they’re really going all the way down. Simply bending your elbows a bit doesn’t count.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:57 pm to SwampGar
I can do many
Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:08 pm to lsu777
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i would say 75% of this board can do less than 3 true dead hang chins and 40-50% cant do 1.
Ran a PFT this morning with my little brother bc I wanted to see how much I’d fallen off from when I left the Marine Corps to now in my mid 40s. Still getting 14 dead hang pull-ups, 92 crunches, and a 26 minute run. The run fell off horribly. I used to do sub 20. It’s true about if you don’t use it, you lose it. Time to start running again.
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