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re: PANIC in DC: Pending EPA SCOTUS Ruling Edition
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:48 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:48 am to Fun Bunch
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I want this Court to take on Executive Orders next.
This ruling should do a number on those, as well. EOs are typically based in the same sort of Congressional vagueness.
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:49 am to Diamondawg
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next
I wanna see them take on the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve System.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:49 am to DoubleDown
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Maybe I am more libertarian than I thought, but I'm all for less federal gov't weighing in on these topics the last 30 years. I'm more for letting the people vote in officials/ideas to their respective State and the people can decide.
I don't need the Federal Gov't telling me who/who cannot bake a cake for someone. Let the people decide.
This is the correct answer. Starting with overturning Roe, I believe we're at the cusp of the people's eyes being opened to the gross overreach of the federal government, and how we've allowed it to run rampant for over a hundred years, now.
The founding fathers would be APPALLED at the state we've allowed the balance of power between the government and the people to devolve into.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:51 am to Fun Bunch
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Yeah that reaction to this one will be...doomsday.
It's funny because this court is basically, pretty clearly, putting the legislative powers back with legislatures.
Not exactly some "extreme" or "draconian" ideal.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:51 am to UTMaverick
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Reining in unelected bureaucrats is paramount in sending power back to the people, and it forces Congress to do their damn job.
Every bit of this right here.
If an agency wants something regulated/ mandated, then they ask congress to draft legislation.
That way the peoples reps decide.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:52 am to Fun Bunch
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Her society life would be ruined.
And so we have the crux of the problem with CJ John Roberts, too.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:53 am to rt3
I can see the argument there. Is it constitutional for congress to create and agency with virtually unlimited power to create rules while simultaneously bypassing the legislative process.
My argument would be that if congress is bound by a legislative process to enact rules and regulations and they cede that authority to another agency all the rules that bind the legislative process should also bind the agency. In other words if an agency wants to enact a regulation it should first come from congress and then can be left to the agency to enforce. Congress doesn’t have the power to cede the legislative process
My argument would be that if congress is bound by a legislative process to enact rules and regulations and they cede that authority to another agency all the rules that bind the legislative process should also bind the agency. In other words if an agency wants to enact a regulation it should first come from congress and then can be left to the agency to enforce. Congress doesn’t have the power to cede the legislative process
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's funny because this court is basically, pretty clearly, putting the legislative powers back with legislatures.
Not exactly some "extreme" or "draconian" ideal.
See, the thing is, they don't want the power going back to the legislature because that requires compromise. It gives the people a voice.
They don't want the people to have a voice because it takes power away from them, and allows all of these stupid citizens to do away with what they deem necessary.
They want unchecked power in the hands of an unwieldy, unabashedly left wing 4th branch of government.
We have a _________ crisis people that is catastrophic and we need to act now!
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:54 am to VoxDawg
So what exactly is this case about? I’m not well read on the matter
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:55 am to Kjnstkmn
quote:Wonder how all the BOOM posts by Q correlate to these announcements.
The 4th BOOM will be magical
2nd Amendment
Roe
EPA
????
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:56 am to VoxDawg
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:56 am to Fun Bunch
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Yeah that reaction to this one will be...doomsday.
There's always the chance at a disappointing ruling on this matter, but if the Court continues to exert some considerable weight as indicated last week, imagine the thermonuclear liberal shite fit to be pitched when on consecutive decision days they lose on:
Gun control
Abortion
Climate change hoax implementation
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:57 am to BobBoucher
I remember at the beginning of Pres Trumps term, Steve Bannon did an interview saying the ultimate goal of this administration was nothing less than the complete dismantling of the administrative state.
The sweet irony of the 2020 election is that this decision could go a long way in accomplishing that goal 18 months after he left office.
The sweet irony of the 2020 election is that this decision could go a long way in accomplishing that goal 18 months after he left office.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:57 am to VoxDawg
Couldn’t this potentially result in a hard reset of how the federal government operates? Would this void the billions of pages of regulations enacted by federal agencies over the past decades?
Also it’s interesting how something so substantial is being decided on NOW after decades of federal regulations being enacted
Also it’s interesting how something so substantial is being decided on NOW after decades of federal regulations being enacted
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:58 am to Samso
It’s really quite amazing.
Contingency of Government anyone?
Contingency of Government anyone?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:01 am to BobBoucher
quote:
Every bit of this right here.
If an agency wants something regulated/ mandated, then they ask congress to draft legislation.
That way the peoples reps decide.
This is why we must fix the broken election system currently in place. Without honest elections and term limits the same corrupt congressional delegations will remain in place. Only now with this ruling, they actually will have to work and not pretend anymore.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:02 am to Fun Bunch
Us SCOTUS geeks have been talking about this case all term. Dobbs was a cultural victory that will pay dividends in society. This is going to be a real, tangible, victory that really hurts the deep state immediately.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:02 am to Samso
Will this affect our oil production or nah
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:02 am to Samso
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Also it’s interesting how something so substantial is being decided on NOW after decades of federal regulations being enacted
There are precedents giving the admin agencies this power. Gorsuch, in particular, has been fighting those precedents for a long time.
This is his baby.
If the Court does strike down this power, I presume at least one dissent will mirror the recent 2A one, where it's just talking policy aspirations and not law.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Whom is most likely to be writing the majority.
Will Robert's be able to split the baby again?
Will Robert's be able to split the baby again?
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