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re: A well-written, well defined red flag is a decent idea to stop this stuff

Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69464 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:21 pm to
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I dont like your politics

I am gonna report that you are crazy and threatening to kill people

See how this works?


That's not how it works

The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120698 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:23 pm to
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That's not how it works The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


Who presides over these hearings?

A leftist judge that wants guns off the streets?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13371 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:24 pm to
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That's not how it works

The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


any appeal system?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43475 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:24 pm to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


Because there's no way a government board would go after someone because of their politics.....



Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109883 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:24 pm to
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That's not how it works



Narrator: That is how it works.

quote:

The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.





Ah yes, a hearing.

This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 7:04 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72365 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:25 pm to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.
A hearing run by who?
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:26 pm to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


We all have the right to not be seized without due process, dumbass.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:33 pm to
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That's not how it works The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.

Who presides over these hearings? And please be very specific, thanks.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:37 pm to
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That's not how it works

The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


THe problem with some of you people is how extremely naive you are and/or how completely ignorant you are to just how shitty and corrupt the real world is.

Not a shot in hell these trials would be fair and neutral
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67274 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:49 pm to
Before you give a power to your government, imagine what that government could use that power for if it was wielded by your greatest enemy. Imagine someone who absolutely hates your guts, who is malicious and vindictive beyond all rhyme or reason using that power just to screw you over. If the consequences of that person armed with that power scares you, then the government should never have that power.

Why? Because politics is inherently cyclical. People you trust might be in power this year, then four years later get replaced with radicals with diametrically opposed ideals. As such, any power granted to government WILL eventually be in the hands of someone who absolutely hates you and wishes you were dead. It’s an inevitability. Our government was designed to grant safeguards to the people to prevent their rights from being taken away by such a vindictive government. Any attempts to weaken those safeguards should be resisted at all costs.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:57 pm to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


Leftists: Trump is a tyrant who will take away all our rights!
Also Leftists: I totally trust government, and that they won't violate my rights.

It's gotta be a hard life living like that.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:52 pm to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


So the person says “I’m not crazy, you people are wrong” and that the end of it, they get to go home and keep their firearms? It would be very difficult to defend oneself once accused.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9668 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:03 am to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80334 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 5:04 am to
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That's not how it works

The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


Oh, you’ll get your hearing. At which time, evidence will be introduced showing how you were put on psychiatric drugs because (by your own admission) mean Tweets broke you.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16351 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:43 am to
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That's not how it works


Just like the FISA court isn't used to spy on citizens.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
52007 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 8:47 am to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.


And as those cases backlog, then what happens?

Their arms are confiscated "to be on the safe side" while they wait years for their hearing.

See: Illegals waiting years on their hearings

See also: VA backlog issues


Your inability to look at the past to see the future your decisions would create is the hallmark of Leftist utopian idealogues.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11337 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 8:51 am to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.

Who is the judge? Better hope they share your views or it’s off to the gulag comrade.

You continue to think your political opponents are reasonable people seeking reasonable solutions.

They aren’t.

They are totalitarians seeking power who see you as in their way and who would destroy you without a second thought to achieve their glorious future.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
2029 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:32 am to
Tell that to all the conservative supporters who have been jailed and indicted on made up charges for no other reason than to remove them from being an obstacle of a political whim.

Actually, I believe this country had something similar to what you refer to as a red flag law where a person could be committed to an institution on the rod of law enforcement or family members and that ended after a SCOTUS ruling that infringed upon the committed persons civil liberties. You cannot arbitrarily take away someone rights just because you think they are crazy.

If you can't see why red flag laws do not work then you are intentionally not following all scenarios that follow such a law.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
8024 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:17 am to
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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.

You have to be a troll. Nobody is this retarded on purpose.

Yes, yes, just have to waste your time doing a little hearing with a leftist judge who is there to rubber stamp your arms away. Brilliant idea, comrade.
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