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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:07 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:07 am to VolSquatch
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No, I said you agree with the media. I don't know, or really care, when you formed it.
So you form your opinion by taking the opposite side of what the media reports? Interesting.
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:10 am to doubleb
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So you form your opinion by taking the opposite side of what the media reports? Interesting.
Not what I said, but thanks for playing
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:22 am to VolSquatch
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Theres this Ukrainian soldier called "the Bat of Bakhmut" who dresses up as a bat and only goes out at night and beats up Russians he finds in the streets. He doesn't kill them though, its against his code. Apparently the Russians sent a guy out called "Dzhoker" who dresses like a clown to fight against "The Bat of Bakhmut". Maybe the Bat and the Ghost will do a teamup one day
I've heard tale of a rather effeminate man living just outside Kiev. He's an academic with a penchant for military history, and he sends his beautiful young wife out east several times a year to carouse and distract the enemy. By draining front-line Russian soldiers of vitality and energy, they are doing their part to resist the invasion.
For his selfless dedication to the homeland, this man has been dubbed the "Cuck of Kiev". His wife has been dubbed the "Whore of Karkhov". It should be noted that when spoken in their original Ukrainian, both nicknames aren't the pejoratives that they seem to be when translated to English.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:25 am to SirWinston
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this man has been dubbed the "Cuck of Kiev".
That could be 4 or 5 different posters in this thread
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:38 am to VolSquatch
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 24 April 2024
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According to the independent Russian media group, Mediazona, in March 2024, Russian military courts sentenced a record high 684 members of the Russian armed forces for desertion. The total number of cases since 'partial' mobilisation in September 2022 is 7,400, with the Moscow area receiving the highest number of cases at 496.
Many of the soldiers who have been tracked down and appear in military court are given suspended sentences, returned to their units and to the frontlines. At the same time, asylum requests in Western nations from Russian nationals avoiding military service have reached record levels.
Russian soldiers, including those forcibly recruited during the September 2022 partial mobilisation, are required to remain in military service indefinitely, with little prospect of release.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 24 April 2024
·
According to the independent Russian media group, Mediazona, in March 2024, Russian military courts sentenced a record high 684 members of the Russian armed forces for desertion. The total number of cases since 'partial' mobilisation in September 2022 is 7,400, with the Moscow area receiving the highest number of cases at 496.
Many of the soldiers who have been tracked down and appear in military court are given suspended sentences, returned to their units and to the frontlines. At the same time, asylum requests in Western nations from Russian nationals avoiding military service have reached record levels.
Russian soldiers, including those forcibly recruited during the September 2022 partial mobilisation, are required to remain in military service indefinitely, with little prospect of release.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:25 am to cypher
Biden Administration Announces Significant New Security Assistance for Ukraine
April 24, 2024
Today, following the passage of the national security supplemental which the President just signed into law, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced a significant new security assistance to urgently meet Ukraine's critical security and defense needs. This announcement is the Biden Administration's fifty-sixth tranche of equipment to be provided from DoD inventories to Ukraine since August 2021. This Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA) package has an estimated value of $1 billion and includes capabilities to support Ukraine's most urgent requirements, including air defense interceptors, artillery rounds, armored vehicles, and anti-tank weapons.
The capabilities in this announcement include:
RIM-7 and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
Small arms and additional rounds of small arms ammunition, including .50 caliber rounds to counter Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
155mm artillery rounds, including High Explosive and Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions rounds;
105mm artillery rounds;
60mm mortar rounds;
Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs);
High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
Logistics support vehicles;
Tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems;
Precision aerial munitions;
Airfield support equipment;
Anti-armor mines;
Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing; and
Night vision devices; and
Spare parts, field equipment, training munitions, maintenance, and other ancillary equipment.
This package will surge munitions, weapons, and equipment forward to support Ukraine's ability to defend its frontlines, protect its cities, and counter Russia's continued attacks. With the bipartisan support of Congress, Ukraine can count on strong and resolute U.S. leadership to provide consistent security assistance support – together with some 50 Allies and partners – to ensure its brave defenders receive the critical capabilities needed to fight Russian aggression.
April 24, 2024
Today, following the passage of the national security supplemental which the President just signed into law, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced a significant new security assistance to urgently meet Ukraine's critical security and defense needs. This announcement is the Biden Administration's fifty-sixth tranche of equipment to be provided from DoD inventories to Ukraine since August 2021. This Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA) package has an estimated value of $1 billion and includes capabilities to support Ukraine's most urgent requirements, including air defense interceptors, artillery rounds, armored vehicles, and anti-tank weapons.
The capabilities in this announcement include:
RIM-7 and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
Small arms and additional rounds of small arms ammunition, including .50 caliber rounds to counter Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
155mm artillery rounds, including High Explosive and Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions rounds;
105mm artillery rounds;
60mm mortar rounds;
Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs);
High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
Logistics support vehicles;
Tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems;
Precision aerial munitions;
Airfield support equipment;
Anti-armor mines;
Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing; and
Night vision devices; and
Spare parts, field equipment, training munitions, maintenance, and other ancillary equipment.
This package will surge munitions, weapons, and equipment forward to support Ukraine's ability to defend its frontlines, protect its cities, and counter Russia's continued attacks. With the bipartisan support of Congress, Ukraine can count on strong and resolute U.S. leadership to provide consistent security assistance support – together with some 50 Allies and partners – to ensure its brave defenders receive the critical capabilities needed to fight Russian aggression.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:38 am to cypher
Why don’t they announce where it will all be delivered, what day and what place?
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:27 am to Warfox
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Trump is getting back into office. Everyone knows it. Everyone is preparing for a Trump presidency.
The election is over 5 months away, an eternity in today's political climate. There are likely to be swings both ways between now and then, and anyone who claims with confidence that their candidate will win is simply exposing their ignorance.
That said, if the election were held today, I believe Donald Trump would win a narrow victory.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:29 am to doubleb
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Why don’t they announce where it will all be delivered, what day and what place?
Well, I did notice that they didn't specify the numbers of everything. In the past, we'd know exactly how many Bradleys are going, etc.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:29 am to No Colors
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Letting Russia continue to grind away and pick off pieces of countries will guarantee a forever war.
Putin's hero is Peter the Great. Too bad for Russia and Ukraine that he didn't go for peace and prosperity instead of war and expansion.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:37 am to doubleb
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When Russia took Crimea, I wanted Obama to do more than send Ukraine blankets.
Well, Barry did send some MREs too!
We, among others, promised to support Ukraine's independence in exchange for them giving up their nuclear weapons starting back in 1993. I remember it well and our concern over those weapons ending in the wrong hands was quite deep.
If our promises are no good, they should have kept those nukes or made some new ones. I'd bet they are quite capable of building a new nuclear arsenal.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:37 am to SirWinston
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For his selfless dedication to the homeland, this man has been dubbed the "Cuck of Kiev". His wife has been dubbed the "Whore of Karkhov"
Must be interracial and Nazi haters for you to cast so much shade at your fellow cuck
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 11:39 am
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:05 pm to doubleb
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Why don’t they announce where it will all be delivered, what day and what place?
Won't make a damned bit of difference, Russia can't do much to stop it.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:17 pm to StormyMcMan
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The Moldovan prosecutor's office opened a criminal case against the head of the Gagauz autonomy.
The case against Evghenia Gutul has already been sent to court. Gutul is accused of financing the pro-Kremlin party "Shor" which is banned in Moldova. [Named after founder and financial supporter Ilan Shor, a U.S.-sanctioned fugitive Russian oligarch.]
That's Ok honey, the 'bail' money is on its way.
Oh, wait...
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Investigators in Moldova conducted over 150 searches on Monday night, most of which took place at the Chisinau airport.
After the searches, the total amount found exceeds 20 million Moldovan lei (1 million euros), stated the official.
In Moscow on Sunday, at a hotel near the Kremlin, several Moldovan politicians affiliated with Shor formed the political bloc "Victory," which will participate in the presidential elections and the referendum this fall. The leaders of the new electoral bloc accused the authorities of deliberately delaying their return home from Moscow and harassing them at the airport, but did not provide details of what happened.
[Moldovan] Law enforcement officials were informed that several individuals from this group were planning to illegally bring in amounts exceeding the legal limit into the country. The money was intended to finance political parties in Moldova, in the interest of the "organized criminal group Shor," announced Viorel Cernauseanu, the head of the General Police Inspectorate (IGP), on Tuesday.
It seems like someone dropped a dime on the Moscow attendees. Whether it was a Russian dime or a US dime remaines unknown at this time.
But it does look like the Moldovan Prosecutor's Office will be getting new office furniture soon. Thanks Ilan, you're a champ.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:18 pm to SirWinston
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I've heard tale of a rather effeminate man
That's right up your alley
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:08 pm to VolSquatch
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You should entertain that he might.
Any other candidate and Biden is down 5 points or more right now. Trumpers are making the mistake Dems made in 2016... trotting out a candidate with a baked in history that a lot of people dislike and saying "Surely we can beat THAT guy". But the difference is that we are actually living in Biden's America right now. People see the border. They see the cost of essential goods. They see the world in chaos. Rightly or wrongly, your average person puts that on the President.
Any other Republican candidate would do better than Trump will in this upcoming election.
(before anyone talks about "stolen election" stuff, if Trump could not stop that when he was in office and in control of the government, what chance would he have now as an outsider very much not in control of anything? So that's not a factor whichever way you believe)
But there's the Abortion debate, which for decades was a motivating thing for some voters as single-issue on the right... and now is the same thing on the left.
But the biggest thing is that Trump won in 2016 because he mostly held together the Republican coalition that existed already and added some previously non-voting populists, which paired with Clinton not inspiring minority voters in PA, WI and MI to bother voting let him win the Electoral College (he lost the popular vote)
He lost in 2020 because he lost moderate Independents, and even some moderate/establishment Republicans who were turned off by him in general.
And then after that, he made the remarkable move of doubling down and telling moderate/establishment Republicans to frick off, he didn't want them... and he has purged them from the party apparatus and knocked them off in primaries and generally pushed them and their ideology out of politics, overall...
so, those moderate/establishment Republicans have become "swing voters," and a lot of them have become Indendents (I was chatting with 2 friends who put themselves in that group about all of this last night)...
Some of them are among the people giving Biden an "unfavorable" rating (along with the fringes of the Left, who think he is Conservative and pro-Israel of whatever)... they might not like Biden or his policies or Democratic party policies in general...
BUT, they are going to vote for Biden in November, because Trump is their political enemy and they want him GONE!!! And then they want his sycophants GONE!!! And if the Trump crowd holds onto the Republican party, they want a third party to form... and they are the most reliable voting block of the old Republican coalition (Trump's most ardent supporters are the least reliable voters... most had not voted for decades before he pulled him into politics and still don't reliably vote in other elections) and are the block with the deepest pockets and business ties (and in their absence GOP fundraising has fallen WAY behind the Dems)... The paradigm has shifted to where moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats have more in common with each other than they do with the non-moderates in their respective parties, who are both more focused on waging culture battles than running government.
We have had the same two political parties for quite a while, now... 5 times in our country's past a third party has emerged and replaced one of the existing two... that hasn't happened in almost 150 years... maybe it is time.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:30 pm to VolSquatch
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But the difference is that we are actually living in Biden's America right now. People see the border. They see the cost of essential goods. They see the world in chaos.
How can any American even consider voting for Biden? The damage/policies that he has created with his border invasion is nothing but treason. This guy is worse than Carter, Bush Jr. and Obama. I always thought Obama did the most damage with his politicization of the federal government but Dementia Joe is awful.
I cannot name one thing that this clown has done to help this country., but there are many examples of total failure. It is a total shitshow.
I can remember when Biden ran the two times before. He was considered a total joke candidate. No one supported him.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:48 pm to Lee B
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Any other Republican candidate would do better than Trump will in this upcoming election.
I said as much and that doesn't mean Trump will lose. Thats how poor a candidate Biden is.
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But the biggest thing is that Trump won in 2016 because he mostly held together the Republican coalition that existed already and added some previously non-voting populists, which paired with Clinton not inspiring minority voters in PA, WI and MI to bother voting let him win the Electoral College (he lost the popular vote)
Trump had a really good message in 2016 that he was hit or miss in actually following through on. AND he didn't have a history. Like him or not, seeing him in the news every single day and everything being a controversy is kind of tiresome, and some voters don't like it. And that wasn't all his doing, but some of it was.
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so, those moderate/establishment Republicans have become "swing voters," and a lot of them have become Indendents (I was chatting with 2 friends who put themselves in that group about all of this last night)...
I will be voting for Trump, and I'd be embarassed to call myself a Republican right now. But thats been the case for a while, so nothing really notable there.
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BUT, they are going to vote for Biden in November, because Trump is their political enemy and they want him GONE!!! And then they want his sycophants GONE!!
Some of those lefties are calling him Genocide Joe
those people aren't voting for him. You think he is going to do as well in the border states this time? You think the Jewish population is going to be as gung ho when he has also insulted them/Israel? Its par for the course for you at this point, but this is just a wall of text thats missing the mark.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:51 pm to texag7
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What platform? Sending over Kamala Harris to provoke Putin into a losing war then funding it?
You don't think much of Putin if you think Kamala Harris could provoke him into war.
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Ukraine is not winning.
This is Putin's war. It he who has to win it. Not Ukraine. All Ukraine has to do is not lose. Stay the course and let Russia wear itself out.
As a matter of fact, when has a modern country fought a resistance campaign on their own soil and eventually lost? Being big and bad doesn't win wars these days. Being resilient is what prevails.
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What’s your next strategy?
It's not my strategy
what do I have to do with this? Ukraine's strategy is to convince the world that it won't give up. And that it can keep the Russian army from conquering it's territory, capturing its ports and Capitol, forcing its government to abdicate.
It's doing well in that regard. Russia has less Ukraine territory today than it did on this date two years ago.
Ukraine doesn't have to conquer Russia. It just has to keep Russia from conquering Ukraine.
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