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re: How 5A schools have voted on reunification...

Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:12 am to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:12 am to
I wonder why the Ascension and Livingston contingents would want to keep the split.

ETA: Are all sports split?
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:19 am to
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I wonder why the Ascension and Livingston contingents would want to keep the split.

ETA: Are all sports split?


Because they see Catholic/UHigh grab all the premier athletes in the entire BR metro region while they are limited to kids who live in their relatively smaller zipcodes

They also know each school finds "ways" to help with tuition which is a violation of current LHSAA bylaws

It isn't the non-select schools' fault for the debacle that is LHSAA football.

The non-selects originally proposed 6 division. 4 non-select and 2 select. That would have kept every division competitive.

The non-selects went bananas and demanded the same number of divs despite not having enough schools. It was their attempt to poison the split from happening. Non-selects called their bluff and voted in favor of the split anyway.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:20 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:21 am to
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think a lot of public schools (especially smaller ones) don’t.


No one’s ever going to unsplit 2A and 1A… the compositions of the schools and who runs them are just too different… especially Newman, Episcopal in the same class with St Helena, General Trass, Fisher, and South Plaquemines
Posted by Riolobo
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:24 am to
West Monroe does NOT want the smoke.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:30 am to
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I think a lot of public schools (especially smaller ones) don’t.


This vote is only applicable to 5A, correct?

I think there was a bit of disappointment within the non-select schools when it became obvious that the select playoffs were still drawing large crowds and getting plenty of press.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:40 am to
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Because they see Catholic/UHigh grab all the premier athletes in the entire BR metro region while they are limited to kids who live in their relatively smaller zipcodes


I didn't ask for your treatise on why you think the split is legitimate.

I asked specifically about a group of 6 schools, some of which voted to nullify the split in the past.
Posted by Richard Headley
Member since Oct 2021
386 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:41 am to
The best program in Louisiana to shift accountability to everyone else besides themselves.

They are still crying over the Zachary loss and those who have seen the film at LHSAA openly mocking them for being so delusional. The officials graded out high in that game for getting it right. Meaning WM thought they were going to get away with some shite to handicap the game so they could have a chance to win and the officials saw through it after 1st quarter and busted them and and they never adjusted. They never planned to; just blame others.

There was no helmet to helmet and there was no face mask. There was no fumble into the end zone and their players had no control losing their composure on the field over and over with a victim mentality.

An embarrassment they have become.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:43 am
Posted by karmew32
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:44 am to
How come more Ponchatoula fans aren't complaining about the outcome of the West Monroe/Zachary game? It likely cost us our first state title in 81 years. There was even a petition made.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:48 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:50 am to
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How come more Ponchatoula fans aren't complaining about the outcome of the West Monroe/Zachary game? It likely cost us our first state title in 81 years.


You wouldn’t be out of place in West Monroe with that mentality…
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:55 am to
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Because they see Catholic/UHigh grab all the premier athletes in the entire BR metro region


Do Ascension and Livingston people ever ask themselves why that is?

They have 2,000 kids each, they shouldn’t be hurting for athletes
Posted by Mr LSU2001
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Because they see Catholic/UHigh grab all the premier athletes in the entire BR metro region while they are limited to kids who live in their relatively smaller zipcodes

They also know each school finds "ways" to help with tuition which is a violation of current LHSAA bylaws

It isn't the non-select schools' fault for the debacle that is LHSAA football.

The non-selects originally proposed 6 division. 4 non-select and 2 select. That would have kept every division competitive.

The non-selects went bananas and demanded the same number of divs despite not having enough schools. It was their attempt to poison the split from happening. Non-selects called their bluff and voted in favor of the split anyway.


You Do relize why the selects went with 4 divisions don't you. Unlike the public schools think not every private school is out their buying athletes. You could not expect the schools with 200 kids to compete with the ones that have 800-900 kids. Majority of private schools are small.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:07 am to
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You Do relize why the selects went with 4 divisions don't you. Unlike the public schools think not every private school is out their buying athletes. You could not expect the schools with 200 kids to compete with the ones that have 800-900 kids. Majority of private schools are small.


Yet we expect schools with a geographic footprint of 50K to compete with a school whose footprint approaches 870K?

For LHSAA purposes, get rid of the bylaws that stipulate living in attendance zones. Families will find a way to get their kids into the schools they want to attend. Sometimes opting to use another family members' address. Don't make the LHSAA enforce residency rules leave that to the state/parish. If the kid got in, he/she is eligible
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 11:08 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:09 am to
Why not just make the public schools charge tuition?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:14 am to
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Do Ascension and Livingston people ever ask themselves why that is?

They have 2,000 kids each, they shouldn’t be hurting for athletes


D1 athletes don't grow on trees. The problem is this.

let's say EA, DTHS, SAHS all have 1 D1 prospect on their roster. According to current rules, those porspects could all enroll at a BR select school and be immediately eligible. They would NOT be eligible if they all decided to attend/play at one AP public school together.

The size of the school does not do much when you're facing a handpicked team of allstar athletes from an entire region
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95976 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:15 am to
I wish every student could pick what school they wanted to go to and all current schools were free. All of them

Surely everyone would flock to the public’s and they would dominate then because of all the pesky private recruiting
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:21 am to
Im confused. If 39 people voted in 2020 why did it not happen then? Was that vote for all classes or no classes to reunify?
Posted by Vood
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:24 am to
Why is this such a hot button topic? Why do people care so much that the spilt exists?

I am not being accusatory I truly want to know why this upsets people so much.

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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47874 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:25 am to
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a handpicked team of allstar athletes from an entire region
a lot of people don’t know that and don’t do research. They just see River Ridge and think there’s something in the water

quote:

Im confused. If 39 people voted in 2020 why did it not happen then? Was that vote for all classes or no classes to reunify?
that was part of a larger vote which was for the whole association… forgot what it was for but I’m sure there were threads on it

But the point is to just bring 5A together just needs a majority vote, and 35 out of 69 5A schools can get it done
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37596 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:26 am to
Because outside of NOLA, there were some serious rivalries between private and public schools that manifested in the playoffs in addition to the regular season.

Now there are also how many state championship games?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95976 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:28 am to
In the scheme of life it isn’t important

However, louisiana athletics has a very rich history of rivalries of private schools and public schools due to our heavy Catholic influence. We aren’t like a lot of places where publics just dominate private schools. We have a very even competitive balance

Making a split was unnecessary and ruined a rich history for people
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