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Indiana has an opportunity to not only win their first national title after a history of hapless play, but also go down as one of the greatest teams in CFB history. If they lose, they'll be by far the most memorable non-champion in CFB history. More than even 1998 Kansas State and 2007 West Virginia.

Equivalents in other leagues would be if the Lions or Browns went 17-0 and made the Super Bowl, or Nebraska winning the #1 overall seed in basketball and making the national title game, or the Hornets or Pelicans winning 75 games and hosting Game 7 of the NBA Finals.

It just feels like the outcome of this game will forever define how we see Indiana football.
Also 1998 KSU the entire season until the UCLA loss announcement at the Big 12 CCG.

re: Indiana(-7.5) vs. Miami

Posted by karmew32 on 1/9/26 at 10:16 pm to
This feels like the 2025 World Series where the team everyone is rooting for is clearly better but the heel team catches every break.
A thrilling Miami win would be a much bigger letdown than an Indiana blowout.

re: "Oregoning" >>> Clemsoning

Posted by karmew32 on 1/9/26 at 8:12 pm to
Oregon has "Oregoned" before. The 2012 Stanford loss is the biggest example.

-Oregon was favored by 21, at home with College GameDay in town
-De'Anthony Thomas racing Mariota to the endzone instead of making the block for him to score a TD
-Maldonado missing multiple FGs, including one on the aforementioned DAT/Mariota drive and one in OT
-The Ertz incompletion that was overturned to a game-tying TD for Stanford in the final minute despite no conclusive evidence
-Oregon somehow not recovering a Stanford fumble in OT despite surrounding the ball

I'd say it's a bigger "Oregoning" than any "Clemsoning" loss considering the stakes.

re: "Oregoning" >>> Clemsoning

Posted by karmew32 on 1/9/26 at 8:06 pm to
Not to mention they had the 1981 title in their back pocket and their bitter rival had one of the most iconic dream-ending losses in CFB history in 1984.
Let's not crown them just yet. People were saying this about 1998 KSU and they 2025 Jays'd it against A&M.
I feel like Stephen Daley is a bigger absence than all of Oregon’s missing players combined.

re: Indiana Oregon game thread

Posted by karmew32 on 1/9/26 at 6:51 pm to
The pick-six thrower won this matchup last time.

Just saying.
Wisconsin to my knowledge hasn't had a team that was in national title pole position. The closest was probably 2017, but I doubt they beat either Georgia or Oklahoma. The 2010 team was probably their best but it's hard to say whether they jump Auburn/Oregon or not.

My picks are Oregon, West Virginia, and Kansas State. All 3 have been the favorite to win the national title at a given point in a season but failed to get it done.

Oregon was favored to win the 2012 national title after Bama slipped up against A&M and was favored to win the 2014 national title game. They came very close in 2010 though they were slight underdogs against Auburn. I'd say 2012 was their best chance.

West Virginia was the favorite in 2007 after LSU slipped up against Arkansas. Missouri was projected to lose to Oklahoma and WVU would've been favored against Ohio State

After Ohio State slipped up against Michigan State in 1998, Kansas State was clearly the best of the 3 remaining unbeatens, though their situation was a bit more hazy with how the BCS computers were treating them compared to Tennessee/UCLA. After UCLA lost to Miami, there was a brief few hours where Kansas State was the odds-on favorite to win the national title as they would've been favored against Tennessee.

I think 1998 Kansas State is the best single-season team from any title-less program and would beat many national champions.
I think Miami beats Indiana despite the talent, coaching, and seniority disadvantages.
That's what really sucks about that loss. It felt like Rams fans were rewarded for the indifference while we were punished for our passion.
It definitely feels like the 1998 Big 12 CCG has endured the most in the public consciousness out of all the big CCG upsets. Probably because it was Kansas State and not a more traditionally successful program like Nebraska/Texas/Tennessee/Oklahoma.
Like Indiana’s turnaround under Cignetti, Kansas State was the worst D-I football program before Snyder arrived. 1998 was the apex with a Heisman-level QB in Bishop, 8 All-Americans, and 25 future NFLers. From what I’ve read, they were the favorite to win the national title, particularly after their closest equal that season in Ohio State got upset by a Saban-helmed Michigan State team.

Every neutral seems to have rallied around this Indiana team in a way I’ve never seen. It’s a rare overlap of the best story also being the best team. Did 1998 Kansas State garner similar national support among neutrals?
That KSU team was the best single-season CFB team from 1996-2000. Absolutely elite in all facets and the coaching staff was basically a CFB brain trust. I'd take them straight-up over many national champions.

The way they lost against A&M was eerily reminiscent of Game 7 of the most recent World Series.
I think bowl game rematches in particular favor the losing team.
Never have I been more happy to be proven wrong.
I think the only hope against Indiana is to turn the game into a track meet. If the game is a street fight, Indiana wins.

Even more surreal to say that since normally successful seasons by non-traditional powers are associated with speed & Air Raid offenses, not by winning mainly at the line of scrimmage. Indiana is one of the best LOS-first teams I've ever seen.
It's even more inspiring because they're not some smoke-and-mirrors team like 2008 Texas Tech/2012 Kansas State. They legitimately look like the best team in the country. CFB hasn't had a feel-good juggernaut since 1998 Kansas State.
Bama was the most hated underdog in recent memory and Indiana is simultaneously a great story and a bonafide juggernaut. If you don't like them and aren't a Purdue fan, you don't like college football.