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I think Miami beats Indiana despite the talent, coaching, and seniority disadvantages.
That's what really sucks about that loss. It felt like Rams fans were rewarded for the indifference while we were punished for our passion.
It definitely feels like the 1998 Big 12 CCG has endured the most in the public consciousness out of all the big CCG upsets. Probably because it was Kansas State and not a more traditionally successful program like Nebraska/Texas/Tennessee/Oklahoma.
Like Indiana’s turnaround under Cignetti, Kansas State was the worst D-I football program before Snyder arrived. 1998 was the apex with a Heisman-level QB in Bishop, 8 All-Americans, and 25 future NFLers. From what I’ve read, they were the favorite to win the national title, particularly after their closest equal that season in Ohio State got upset by a Saban-helmed Michigan State team.

Every neutral seems to have rallied around this Indiana team in a way I’ve never seen. It’s a rare overlap of the best story also being the best team. Did 1998 Kansas State garner similar national support among neutrals?
That KSU team was the best single-season CFB team from 1996-2000. Absolutely elite in all facets and the coaching staff was basically a CFB brain trust. I'd take them straight-up over many national champions.

The way they lost against A&M was eerily reminiscent of Game 7 of the most recent World Series.
I think bowl game rematches in particular favor the losing team.
Never have I been more happy to be proven wrong.
I think the only hope against Indiana is to turn the game into a track meet. If the game is a street fight, Indiana wins.

Even more surreal to say that since normally successful seasons by non-traditional powers are associated with speed & Air Raid offenses, not by winning mainly at the line of scrimmage. Indiana is one of the best LOS-first teams I've ever seen.
It's even more inspiring because they're not some smoke-and-mirrors team like 2008 Texas Tech/2012 Kansas State. They legitimately look like the best team in the country. CFB hasn't had a feel-good juggernaut since 1998 Kansas State.
Bama was the most hated underdog in recent memory and Indiana is simultaneously a great story and a bonafide juggernaut. If you don't like them and aren't a Purdue fan, you don't like college football.
If you think about it, Iowa State set the realignment/NIL arms race into motion way back in 2011.
Vanderbilt is more of a pure great story while Indiana is simultaneously a great story and a legitimately elite team. That combo is rare. All of the losses most commonly found on “most devastating losses” lists involve those “all-time story/legit contender” combos tripping up in a close late-season game against a far inferior opponent.

1998 Kansas State
2007 West Virginia
2010 Boise State
2011 Oklahoma State

None of those teams were flukes playing above their talent level. All were preseason top 10 teams.

re: Indiana (-6.5) vs Bama

Posted by karmew32 on 12/19/25 at 11:23 pm to
The only reason the spread is as small as it is is because of the names of the 2 programs. IU is realistically 2 TDs better. This is coming from someone who expects Bama to fall backwards into a win.
If the Bama team was literally any other program, I'd pick Indiana handily. Bama just finds ways to break hearts.
I never said Indiana was overperforming. I think they're just like 1998 KSU/2010 Boise. They're absolutely legit but also a feel-good story. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
1998 KSU and 2010 Boise weren't lightning in a bottle. They were each at least top 6 in the preseason polls and you could make an argument that they were each the most talented team in the country those respective years.

By feel-good story/legit team overlap, I mean a historically inferior program having a team that's legit on the level of the traditional powers. Not a 2008 Texas Tech/2012 KSU situation where it was an overperforming team that got exposed.
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Did you actually watch the game? Oklahoma lost that game way more than Bama won.

Exactly, just like the Jays lost that World Series more than the Dodgers won it. Bama has historically thrived on voodoo magic.
1998 KSU, 2007 WVU, 2010 Boise, and 2011 Okie State were all legit too and we know what happened to those teams. Title contenders falter when they're feel-good stories and should win handily on paper.
Indiana is simultaneously the best team in the country and the best story in college football. That combination hasn't been seen since 1998 Kansas State. So naturally, a meh unlikable Bama team would ruin that story. I feel like they'll have a 2025 World Series-esque win where they're outplayed everywhere but the scoreboard.

This is a rare situation where the entire country will be rooting for the #1-ranked team to win.
I have a bad feeling Bama will have a 2025 World Series-esque victory over Indiana if they win this game.