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karmew32
| Favorite team: | New Orleans Saints |
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My head & heart say Indiana wins in a blowout. My gut says it's one of those games where Indiana comes out swinging, wins everywhere but the scoreboard, controls win probability throughout the game, is on the verge of closing it out a dozen times but just can't, and Miami steals it at the very end.
Either way, no way Indiana gets punched in the mouth.
Either way, no way Indiana gets punched in the mouth.
re: If Indiana loses to Miami, is it the biggest letdown for neutral fans in sports history?
Posted by karmew32 on 1/12/26 at 9:18 pm to Old Man and a Porch
I agree. I always expect the less desirable outcome no matter how unlikely it seems.
re: If Indiana loses to Miami, is it the biggest letdown for neutral fans in sports history?
Posted by karmew32 on 1/12/26 at 2:34 pm to Boodis Man
Nobody thought the 1998 KSU Wildcats or 1998 Vikings would lose either.
If Indiana loses to Miami, is it the biggest letdown for neutral fans in sports history?
Posted by karmew32 on 1/12/26 at 2:27 pm
Indiana is both the overwhelming betting favorite and overwhelming sentimental favorite. Nobody outside of south Florida and the Lafayette, IN metro wants Miami to win. We normally don't get this much overlap between a juggernaut and a feel-good story.
The only ones I can think of are the Vikings losing the 1998 NFCCG and Kansas State losing the 1998 Big 12 Championship Game. But neither of those were the ultimate championship game.
A lot of the other biggest letdowns for neutral fans involve the underdog coming up just short (2009 British Open, 2025 NBA Finals) or the sentimental favorite between 2 evenly matched teams losing despite outplaying their opponent (2002 NBA WCF, 2025 World Series).
The only ones I can think of are the Vikings losing the 1998 NFCCG and Kansas State losing the 1998 Big 12 Championship Game. But neither of those were the ultimate championship game.
A lot of the other biggest letdowns for neutral fans involve the underdog coming up just short (2009 British Open, 2025 NBA Finals) or the sentimental favorite between 2 evenly matched teams losing despite outplaying their opponent (2002 NBA WCF, 2025 World Series).
re: YES...2025 Indiana is a better team than 2019 LSU
Posted by karmew32 on 1/11/26 at 1:16 pm to Kenna City Solja
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98 Vols
The team that only won a national title because Kansas State pulled a 2025 Jays?
re: NFL Various Games - Wildcard Weekend...Texans at Steelers Tonight
Posted by karmew32 on 1/10/26 at 9:55 pm to Turnblad85
You just knew after the Bears failed to recover that fumble on the kickoff that they'd give up a TD.
re: Has any CFB team had more at stake than Indiana will in this game?
Posted by karmew32 on 1/10/26 at 2:55 pm to The Third Leg
Do you feel like Snyder & Gundy also knew even in the moment that 1998 & 2011 respectively were "now or never" seasons for them in terms of winning a natty?
Has any CFB team had more at stake than Indiana will in this game?
Posted by karmew32 on 1/10/26 at 2:00 pm
Indiana has an opportunity to not only win their first national title after a history of hapless play, but also go down as one of the greatest teams in CFB history. If they lose, they'll be by far the most memorable non-champion in CFB history. More than even 1998 Kansas State and 2007 West Virginia.
Equivalents in other leagues would be if the Lions or Browns went 17-0 and made the Super Bowl, or Nebraska winning the #1 overall seed in basketball and making the national title game, or the Hornets or Pelicans winning 75 games and hosting Game 7 of the NBA Finals.
It just feels like the outcome of this game will forever define how we see Indiana football.
Equivalents in other leagues would be if the Lions or Browns went 17-0 and made the Super Bowl, or Nebraska winning the #1 overall seed in basketball and making the national title game, or the Hornets or Pelicans winning 75 games and hosting Game 7 of the NBA Finals.
It just feels like the outcome of this game will forever define how we see Indiana football.
re: Indiana = 2008 Florida-post Tebow speech
Posted by karmew32 on 1/10/26 at 12:57 am to littleavery1948
Also 1998 KSU the entire season until the UCLA loss announcement at the Big 12 CCG.
This feels like the 2025 World Series where the team everyone is rooting for is clearly better but the heel team catches every break.
A thrilling Miami win would be a much bigger letdown than an Indiana blowout.
Oregon has "Oregoned" before. The 2012 Stanford loss is the biggest example.
-Oregon was favored by 21, at home with College GameDay in town
-De'Anthony Thomas racing Mariota to the endzone instead of making the block for him to score a TD
-Maldonado missing multiple FGs, including one on the aforementioned DAT/Mariota drive and one in OT
-The Ertz incompletion that was overturned to a game-tying TD for Stanford in the final minute despite no conclusive evidence
-Oregon somehow not recovering a Stanford fumble in OT despite surrounding the ball
I'd say it's a bigger "Oregoning" than any "Clemsoning" loss considering the stakes.
-Oregon was favored by 21, at home with College GameDay in town
-De'Anthony Thomas racing Mariota to the endzone instead of making the block for him to score a TD
-Maldonado missing multiple FGs, including one on the aforementioned DAT/Mariota drive and one in OT
-The Ertz incompletion that was overturned to a game-tying TD for Stanford in the final minute despite no conclusive evidence
-Oregon somehow not recovering a Stanford fumble in OT despite surrounding the ball
I'd say it's a bigger "Oregoning" than any "Clemsoning" loss considering the stakes.
Not to mention they had the 1981 title in their back pocket and their bitter rival had one of the most iconic dream-ending losses in CFB history in 1984.
re: Dipshit earlier in the year who said we were witnessing one of the GOAT CFB teams
Posted by karmew32 on 1/9/26 at 7:55 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Let's not crown them just yet. People were saying this about 1998 KSU and they 2025 Jays'd it against A&M.
re: Indiana Oregon game thread
Posted by karmew32 on 1/9/26 at 7:01 pm to UncleFestersLegs
I feel like Stephen Daley is a bigger absence than all of Oregon’s missing players combined.
The pick-six thrower won this matchup last time.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Wisconsin to my knowledge hasn't had a team that was in national title pole position. The closest was probably 2017, but I doubt they beat either Georgia or Oklahoma. The 2010 team was probably their best but it's hard to say whether they jump Auburn/Oregon or not.
My picks are Oregon, West Virginia, and Kansas State. All 3 have been the favorite to win the national title at a given point in a season but failed to get it done.
Oregon was favored to win the 2012 national title after Bama slipped up against A&M and was favored to win the 2014 national title game. They came very close in 2010 though they were slight underdogs against Auburn. I'd say 2012 was their best chance.
West Virginia was the favorite in 2007 after LSU slipped up against Arkansas. Missouri was projected to lose to Oklahoma and WVU would've been favored against Ohio State
After Ohio State slipped up against Michigan State in 1998, Kansas State was clearly the best of the 3 remaining unbeatens, though their situation was a bit more hazy with how the BCS computers were treating them compared to Tennessee/UCLA. After UCLA lost to Miami, there was a brief few hours where Kansas State was the odds-on favorite to win the national title as they would've been favored against Tennessee.
I think 1998 Kansas State is the best single-season team from any title-less program and would beat many national champions.
My picks are Oregon, West Virginia, and Kansas State. All 3 have been the favorite to win the national title at a given point in a season but failed to get it done.
Oregon was favored to win the 2012 national title after Bama slipped up against A&M and was favored to win the 2014 national title game. They came very close in 2010 though they were slight underdogs against Auburn. I'd say 2012 was their best chance.
West Virginia was the favorite in 2007 after LSU slipped up against Arkansas. Missouri was projected to lose to Oklahoma and WVU would've been favored against Ohio State
After Ohio State slipped up against Michigan State in 1998, Kansas State was clearly the best of the 3 remaining unbeatens, though their situation was a bit more hazy with how the BCS computers were treating them compared to Tennessee/UCLA. After UCLA lost to Miami, there was a brief few hours where Kansas State was the odds-on favorite to win the national title as they would've been favored against Tennessee.
I think 1998 Kansas State is the best single-season team from any title-less program and would beat many national champions.
I think Miami beats Indiana despite the talent, coaching, and seniority disadvantages.
That's what really sucks about that loss. It felt like Rams fans were rewarded for the indifference while we were punished for our passion.
re: For those old enough to remember, was 1998 Kansas State seen as 2025 Indiana is now?
Posted by karmew32 on 1/4/26 at 2:53 pm to Basura Blanco
It definitely feels like the 1998 Big 12 CCG has endured the most in the public consciousness out of all the big CCG upsets. Probably because it was Kansas State and not a more traditionally successful program like Nebraska/Texas/Tennessee/Oklahoma.
For those old enough to remember, was 1998 Kansas State seen as 2025 Indiana is now?
Posted by karmew32 on 1/4/26 at 2:09 pm
Like Indiana’s turnaround under Cignetti, Kansas State was the worst D-I football program before Snyder arrived. 1998 was the apex with a Heisman-level QB in Bishop, 8 All-Americans, and 25 future NFLers. From what I’ve read, they were the favorite to win the national title, particularly after their closest equal that season in Ohio State got upset by a Saban-helmed Michigan State team.
Every neutral seems to have rallied around this Indiana team in a way I’ve never seen. It’s a rare overlap of the best story also being the best team. Did 1998 Kansas State garner similar national support among neutrals?
Every neutral seems to have rallied around this Indiana team in a way I’ve never seen. It’s a rare overlap of the best story also being the best team. Did 1998 Kansas State garner similar national support among neutrals?
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