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re: Texas pod said there top two targets to replace Beard are Musselman and Nate Oates

Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:56 pm to
We will pay ( and should ) along with a new building ( can afford both) or we will lose him probably. Time for Byrne to step up …
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 3:14 am to
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NW Arkansas is a pretty part of the country. It has some huge corporations located in the area. But I suspect, as an Arkansas fan, you would agree Arkansas athletics is likely one of the biggest things in the area. I doubt Musselman could go anywhere in NW Arkansas without being recognized. And Arkansas basketball probably is VERY important to the people in the area. With great investment from the community comes great expectations...and great criticisms when those expectations aren't being met.

Austin is a big (and growing) city. One that is very diverse in interests of the populace. Yes, UT sports is a big draw. But the interest in football will always dwarf basketball. There would be pressure on the basketball coach to perform. But I suspect the HC of the team could live his life in the community without tons of attention on he and his family. Like any college town, the HC of the major programs are often the biggest "celebrities" in the town. That wouldn't be as much the case in Austin for Musselman as it is in Fayetteville. THAT would be the draw for he and his family because in pretty much every other aspect Arkansas basketball can compete with Texas basketball on the court.

The attention would be on him and his family no matter what.
Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:28 am to
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Austin is a big (and growing) city. One that is very diverse in interests of the populace. Yes, UT sports is a big draw. But the interest in football will always dwarf basketball. There would be pressure on the basketball coach to perform. But I suspect the HC of the team could live his life in the community without tons of attention on he and his family. Like any college town, the HC of the major programs are often the biggest "celebrities" in the town. That wouldn't be as much the case in Austin for Musselman as it is in Fayetteville. THAT would be the draw for he and his family because in pretty much every other aspect Arkansas basketball can compete with Texas basketball on the court.


That is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read and that's saying something. You must have missed how Texas fans treated Shaka Smart. Not like it matters anyways because from what I've seen, Musselman loves the spotlight. If there's a camera he'll make sure to jump in front of it.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:54 am to
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That is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read and that's saying something. You must have missed how Texas fans treated Shaka Smart. Not like it matters anyways because from what I've seen, Musselman loves the spotlight. If there's a camera he'll make sure to jump in front of it.


He was there for 6 years and never won anything of note. Only 2 seasons with a winning record in conference. I'd say they were pretty damn patient given the level of expectations when he arrived. If Musselman had a similar 6 seasons I suspect they would grow tired of him too...like most power conf. schools would.

Again, from a pure a basketball program standpoint there is NOTHING Texas offers that Arkansas can't. I'd argue Arkansas is historically the better program and there is certainly a passion in the city/state for the program. But Austin, as much larger metro area than NW Arkansas, and a much more diverse city in terms of lifestyle (i.e. plenty of things to so) is something NW Arkansas can't match if a coach and his family are interested in that. But, from a strictly basketball perspective there is no reason to leave Arkansas. If offered, it would be a lifestyle choice for Musselman and his family. Not a basketball choice.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 8:35 am to
Arkie is a feeder school for coaches and players. Yes, Musselman would leave for Austin.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 4:38 pm to
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Arkie is a feeder school for coaches


After we fire them. Eddie Sutton was the only one who left for another job and that was Kentucky. But, bless his heart, Eddie wasn’t far from being dismissed here due to an alcohol problem.

Eddie was always loved and appreciated here due to what he built here.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:45 pm to
Come get Cal
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:59 pm to
Texas cares about its sports here. I wouldn’t say any play a significant second role.
Point is Texas would give him as much as Arky can give as far as attention to the program by Donors and importance of the sport. Much bigger stage than Arky too.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 1:29 am to
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Much bigger stage than Arky too.


How so? How is their “stage “ bigger?
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:55 am to
As long as they are not going after Jerome Tang I don't care who they are considering.
Posted by DeltaHog
Member since Sep 2009
630 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:48 am to
This thread is laughable. No doubt Muss will be a target but some of you have delusions of grandeur when it comes to Texas basketball. They’re a big school with lots of money. They have a new arena, cool. Austin is a big city, okay. That still doesn’t make up for their lack of support/interest within the fanbase or lack of program success. NIL? You think ARK can’t or isn’t competing? I’d argue Ark NIL with Hunts and Tysons leading the way is up there with the best in the nation. NSJ got 1.5 million for coming to Arkansas. We are about to have multiple first round picks. We sell out 19k arena on Wednesdays and the Waltons just offered 150 million to renovate or build a new one. Not to mention lil ole Arkansas is more profitable than Texas basketball.
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:18 am to
Texas probably ends up hiring Cal. Until then it’ll be fun to continue to watch pig fans melt every time muscle man gets namedropped
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42348 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:30 am to
Texas interim coach doing pretty good so far
He may have a real shot at this job depending on how Texas finishes out
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11071 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:05 am to
The appeal of Austin is that it's in the hills and there's water. So basically, Austin is Fayetteville with homeless people, bumper to bumper traffic, and real estate that is 3x the price. Dude lives on Blessings Golf Course so for reference he paid like $275/sq ft for his 8k sq ft home. A house near Austin CC is over $900/sq ft. Not to mention he's not going down to Rainy street on the weekends. His standard of living would go down without an insane raise.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:57 pm to
God, please please let it be Musselman. Anything to not see that dude would be welcome.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42348 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:01 pm to
I could see Muss taking it if offered

Bama better get that arena built because Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Michigan St, and Michigan will come calling at some point.

I'm not convinced Kansas won't be in market depending on what NCAA does with Self
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13174 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:20 pm to
If any of those schools , especially the Michigan ones , come calling , we are in trouble
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9658 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:15 am to
“You honestly believe Alabama and Texas have the same allure as coaching landing spots? Not even close in my opinion. Austin > Tuscaloosa. Texas basketball recruits > Alabama recruits. Not just any school would have been able to pull Chris beard from tech regardless of it being his Alma matter.”

Here we go again with the Austin nightlife being a selling point. If a coach looks at that then he shouldn’t be coaching.

As far as Texas recruits being better, meh, not lately.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28242 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:33 am to
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Here we go again with the Austin nightlife being a selling point. If a coach looks at that then he shouldn’t be coaching.


It's not "nightlife". It's that larger cities offer more things to do for a person and his family away from basketball. Plus, Texas doesn't have a state income tax. There is a reason many people have moved to Austin over the last few decades. It's a popular living destination for a lot. That's not a knock on Tuscaloosa. It's just reality. Now, some people don't like living in a larger metropolis. And that is perfectly ok. Oats may be one of those guys.

But that's why I continue to say that from a pure basketball perspective, aside from maybe a larger salary, Texas doesn't offer really anything more than Alabama. Clearly he can recruit top talent to Alabama and have success. So the decision would be one of lifestyle. If a coach and his family want to live in a larger city there nothing Alabama can do about that.
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