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re: Texas A&M staff updates

Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:35 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:35 pm to
Seems kind of weird that 2 guys that served on his staff this year wouldn't accept offers to serve on his staff at A&M. Especially with that $11MM pool for assistants.

That's somewhat of a red flag, no?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:44 pm to
Our fans are rejoicing that tucci is not returning
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:37 am to
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Seems kind of weird that 2 guys that served on his staff this year wouldn't accept offers to serve on his staff at A&M. Especially with that $11MM pool for assistants. That's somewhat of a red flag, no?


Kelly and saban both left schools, built staffs. The staff Nick had failed. Kellys for now is doing good.
Nick hired Jimbo, took his advice with the offense staff hires. The defense side, Nick had what he wanted. When Nick lost his OL coach, Tricket , Jimbo got the coach he wanted. Nick lost a DC, hired one, lost him within weeks. Tried to hire a friend of mine, that failed. He then elevated Muschamp.

Most coaches have a list of names if a coach is lost. Some of my friends in the profession will let me know who’s being hired, who’s moving on. The stories of hire and fire, enjoyable.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:40 am to
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Especially with that $11MM pool for assistants.


$11M doesn’t go as far as you think.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:49 am to
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Especially with that $11MM pool for assistants.


Kelly had $8.2M to work with when he came in, OL Coach was under a 3 year contract, $820K last year and $850K this year. I think I’m close on the numbers. What Kelly walked into as for AD and other support, it’s better than what Elko is getting at aTm, that’s my opinion. Elko has a way better roster, if he can keep it together.

I have a number of friends that played, coached and graduated from aTm, they too are watching this one unfold.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:17 am to
So the pool is slightly better than industry average. Good. It’s not stupid money.

A&M needs to upgrade several spots on the coaching staff over last year. Already addition by subtraction so far.

One of the other advantages that Elko has is that he actually recruited some of the older guys, so he knows them.

Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:23 am to
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So the pool is slightly better than industry average. Good. It’s not stupid money. A&M needs to upgrade several spots on the coaching staff over last year. Already addition by subtraction so far.


No, the stupid money left with Jimbo. Some of the guys a coach will bring in, TE and RB’s most times, are the lower paid guys. They may get more money, RC, RGC, etc.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:30 am to
Yeah. And I think that’s a sign of progress.

Also, some of Jimbo’s guys were better at recruiting than they were at teaching technique.

So I wonder if Elko is looking at some of the good smaller program coaches or better high school coaches who actually care about teaching technique
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:51 am to
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$11M doesn’t go as far as you think.

It's higher than anywhere in the SEC, I think.

Bama went from $8.3 in '22 to $9.1 this year. Georgia is at $9.2. Auburn is under $8.5. I can't find the number on Texas, but I read that a few of their coaches got extensions and raises where 7 of the 10 are making a million or more this season. So they may be the only team in the SEC at or more than $11MM.

$11MM is very good for an assistant pool.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:06 am to
Well then Elko and ATM must suck if all these coaches don’t want to follow him to ATM.

At least that was the unanimously agreed upon conclusion on the SECR about Kelly and LSU when ND coaches didn’t follow him to LSU.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:57 am to
Why bring Rant logic to the coaching changes board?
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:02 pm to
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Why bring Rant logic to the coaching changes board?


Bc it’s the way you guys all operate when it pertains to LSU so you should have no issue with it being applied to your school and coach right?

So according to the logic of the secrant and many of the folks on the coaching change board we can conclude that atm was turned down by at least 5-6 coaches based on the names we heard tied to the job before settling for Elko and Elko must be a terrible person for whom nobody wants to work since his staff is largely refusing to join him.

That’s how it works right ? A guy gets rumored to be connected to your school but isn’t hired must mean he turned you down.

Staff doesn’t follow must mean your coach sucks and is a terrible person lol
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:06 pm to
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We fully recognize that A&M has an all man cheerleading team.


The truth finally reveals itself. You're all closet homosexuals focused on some dudes on the sidelines.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Wichita Co Tiger


What? Because you guys are pissy about how the LSU coaching search went? That’s why?
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:37 pm to
Oh you’re trolling. Gotcha.

I thought you wanted to have a rational discussion, my bad.

I should’ve figured that by an Aggie calling himself mr sausage lmao
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:15 pm to
I wasn’t trolling. I am trying to understand your point. Until this year, the coaching search board didn’t have the free for all shite talking that the SECRant exudes. I guess this year, it’s allowed because LSU isn’t searching for a head coach.
Posted by SlidellTiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:17 pm to
FTFOF
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:28 pm to
I guess you didn’t see it as trolling bc atm wasn’t involved in a coaching search but it certainly happened a couple years ago too.

There was definitely lots of shite talking…people saying we got turned down by Riley, etc, and then bashing Kelly bc some of his staff didn’t join him despite ND promoting from within and by doing so it made perfect sense for those coaches to stay put.

Funny thing is Woodward and people close to him said repeatedly Riley wasn’t a candidate but hey the rant said he turned us down bc his agent floated his name. If he was mentioned as a candidate by the media then by God he was and since we didn’t hire him then that meant he turned us down. Yet somehow we pulled a guy nobody thought we could and a guy who is seen as a top coach in the country. Yes we really settled there huh?

As far anyone being pissy, no we are quite content with pulling a top 5-10 coach. He’s got a good shot to win 10 games each of his first 2 seasons. I think he’s going to be just fine.

It looks like you’re just pissy with how your school’s search went and how his staff hires are going.

The “shite talking” is certainly not unique to this year on this board.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:29 pm to
CC board is always a shite show.

This board is not for the light-hearted. I remember BK was flamed whenever his coordinators didnt follow him lol
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Our fans are rejoicing that tucci is not returning

Why?! He is a nice guy.
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