re: Riley to LSU seems far-fetched...you rarely see lateral moves at the top level of CFB

I'm not saying that being smack-dab in the middle of a recruiting hotbed doesn't help, it certainly does.

Just that the right coach at the right program makes 1000x more of a difference than that. If it were solely about recruits in your backyard, UF or FSU would be killing it and UGA wouldn't have gone 41 years without an NC.

I agree, both definitely matter.

I agree it’s far-fetched. It’s Scott Woodward’s job to try to convince him it’s the right move. We shall see! If Riley gets a raise, we know SW at least tried.

LSU certainly looks like the better place to win championships considering the success of multiple coaches over the last 20 years.

I don't think it's going to happen because it's too close to lateral and those moves don't happen without impetus historically, but I would definitely disagree about it being a true lateral move. Booster and administrative support is equal. Conference is equal. They have similar levels of access to Texas. The big difference is that LSU's Louisiana is Central Oklahoma for OU, and obviously Louisiana is a much better high school football state than Oklahoma, and Oklahoma's footprint is relatively weak in the part of the state that plays the best high school football (though still strong).

I'm pretty sure Woodward's plan here though is to give Riley not much time to give an answer, make the price so high that OU recoils in horror at its sight, and the deadline is too fast approaching for them to really do the calculation and realize that saying yes to an equally high counter offer makes sense. I assume OU's athletic department is competent enough for that to not work, but it's a plan that has a non zero chance of working.

TBH I would rather him stay at Ole Miss and alienate them the way he alienates just about everyone else he has worked for after leaving Pete Carroll's staff at USC

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This in itself isn't as big of a deal as some make it, the importance of in-state recruits is largely overblown. Especially now with the transfer portal and NIL.

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Heavily, heavily, heavily disagree. You can make it work without in state recruits, but the SEC really only recruits the SEC. The big thing Louisiana has going for it that the other talent rich states not named Ohio don't is that all the Louisiana kids bleed purple and gold. Nick Saban is the only person who has had even a small amount of success taking top Louisiana kids from the state, and he's literally a former LSU coach that still had his Louisiana high school football connections when he first started doing that, and as those coaches retired he became the monster we now know.

It's overrated for states like Texas, Florida, and California because those kids have consistently proven that they have no real loyalty to regional programs and will go anywhere, but that's not the case for Louisiana and Ohio. The recruiting rankings don't lie. If you get every Louisiana blue chip, you have a top 5 recruiting class that also probably has a few skill position future pro bowlers. You definitely still throw your hat in for the top recruits in FL, TX, CA, and GA and will need to go out of state some to round out your recruiting class, but LSU and Ohio are really unique here and you can't point to a program like UF or UT to say it doesn't matter (though UT in particular would be way worse than they are right now if they were anywhere else).

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I had a boss years ago from Massilon, Ohio , who used to tell me how Woody had developed the pipeline and kept tabs on all these kids. Physicals, coaches that ran the same offense. Times on the box drill. What injuries they may have had in High School and for Woody.....grades. He would start off talking about a recruit's grades. There was a joke that Woody knew your grades before you did if you were a recruit. That process continues to this day apparently.

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No inside info here, but looking at their recent classes I don't think that pipeline still exists. It seems like Urban Meyer killed it by recruiting nationally instead. I personally think that's a colossal mistake, but I have no power and I can't say I would miss having Ohio State be nationally relevant if Day leaves for the NFL and their next coach kind of sucks.

Like hell, LSU got a Mr. Football. I really doubt that Kiner didn't get seriously recruited by Ohio State.

I'll bet Owlies left arm that it ends up being Napier or aranda. Matt ruhle is outside chance.

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Sorry, but the idea of Riley to LSU doesn’t make sense.

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Gotta disagree with you Chicken.

The goal is to reach one of the 4 spots in the CFP. There is currently 5 Power Confrences, SEC, Big 10, ACC, Big 12, and PAC 12.

28 teams have been chosen so far in 7 years. The SEC champions have made all 7 with 5 #1 seedlings, and Bama as a double SEC playoff (total 8). The ACC Champions have made all 7 with 2 #1 seeds with covid Notre Dame as a double ACC playoff (total 8). Big 10 has put 4 champions in with Ohio State in as non-champion 4 seed (total 5). Big 12 4 appearances all OU. PAC12 total 2 appearances. And lastly an independent Notre Dame.

Now with OU joining the Saban dominated SEC, Riley’s WORST decision would be staying at OU. Next worse is Notre Dame, and a little better LSU. BEST choice would be a PAC 12 school.

But if he’s going to coach SEC, LSU is best opening because Bama and Georgia aren’t looking.

If CFP goes to 6, LSU becomes even more viable as well as a non-power confrence school. This would also reward Aranda at Baylor.

Not sure why it was deleted but I do know that threads with incomplete titles often get anchored or deleted… Try posting it again with a better title… Thanks

Yeah post it again so we can see what you are talking about.