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re: Riley to LSU seems far-fetched...you rarely see lateral moves at the top level of CFB

Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:45 am to
Posted by Gings5
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:45 am to
I agree but it's in my humble opinion that Riley knows recruiting will take a hit when OU joins the SEC because OU won't keep it's current track of guaranteed playoffs every year. If he really wants to win a championship, it makes sense for him to come to LSU... and please bring Caleb Williams with you Lincoln
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:45 am to
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Sorry, but the idea of Riley to LSU doesn't make sense.


Just out crushing dreams early this morning
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:47 am to
As others have pointed out, the interesting factor is future positioning with OU coming to the SEC.

Nobody knows for sure, but it seems very likely that OU will lose much of their positioning as an annual contender after that transfer.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 10:48 am
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:47 am to
I don't disagree. However, Riley has to wonder if he's reached his ceiling at OU - moving to the SEC isn't going to make his job any easier. On the other hand, if you come to LSU, you're basically taking over a team in the cellar (but with a wealth of riches). Pay won't be the big factor in his decision. He will have to decide if it's worth moving his family for a better chance at being the next Nick Saban.
Posted by Usual Suspect
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:47 am to
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I am about to increase Larry's responsibilities since Dhillip has been slacking.

Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:48 am to
I think LSU is a slightly better job than Oklahoma but probably not enough to pull a coach out of a comfortable situation.

247 ranked CFB jobs fairly recently and here is how they rank some of the jobs with coaches LSU is rumored to be looking at:

#5 LSU
#7 Oklahoma
#8 ND
#12 Penn State

247
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20873 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:55 am to
And we will overpay big time for a Tier 2 coach
The fact that Tucker was remotely mentioned is a pathetic joke.
Kiffin will be the best if we can get him.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14901 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:00 am to
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Would they have won the SEC any of those years?


Nope. The playoffs have proven that. Every time they face an SECopponent, they get their arse kicked exceot by Georgia (where they still lost but because Kirby Shart is Les Miles 2.0, it went into OT).
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:04 am to
I don't think OU to LSU is a lateral move at all. LSU is the better job. There's a reason LSU has won 3 nattys since OU won their last one. And it will become even less lateral when OU joins the SEC.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:08 am to
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The Louisiana recruiting advantage is really the only factor that makes sense IMO.



This in itself isn't as big of a deal as some make it, the importance of in-state recruits is largely overblown. Especially now with the transfer portal and NIL.

Aside from LSU, which previous championship teams had great in-state talent to recruit? When is the last time a recruiting hotbed like FL, TX, CA, etc. had a team from the same state win the CFP?

Bigtime programs can pull recruits from anywhere, and the Alabamas, Oklahomas, Ohio States, Clemsons, etc don't have much in-state talent but have managed just fine.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 11:12 am
Posted by DiamondDog
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:17 am to
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Kiffin will be the best if we can get him.


Someone needs to again explain to me why LSU admin should turn loose that buffoon with the program. They already had Ed O. Kiffin is a dumb hire all the way around.

He was a pariah before working with Saban. Now thirsty insecure LSU fans want to drain his nuts.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:20 am to
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Aside from LSU, which previous championship teams had great in-state talent to recruit? When is the last time a recruiting hotbed like FL, TX, CA, etc. had a team from the same state win the CFP?


1. Clemson is 30 minutes from the Georgia state line.
2. The State of Alabama produces talent but is a state with two major SEC programs.
3. Both Florida & Florida State have won recent championships.
4. Ohio State is similar to LSU in regards to being the only premier job in a state with great talent.
5. Texas & California both produce great talent.

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This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 11:27 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37543 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:21 am to
I keep getting the feeling it will be someone like Doreen at NC. Maybe not him but someone like him. Riley and Kiffin are posters wet dreams
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:22 am to
Agreed but it’s October so why not dream
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:25 am to
Think about this: First major hire since announcement of NIL & on the heels of new SEC TV deal.

Expected contract might break the mold, and rumors certainly are aligned with that.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:28 am to

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Clemson is 30 minutes from Georgia. Alabama produces talent but also shares a state with Auburn.


You kinda proved my point there, the top 4 most talent-producing states haven't had an NC team since 2013 Florida State. Even if Clemson is 30 mins from Georgia, that's not whithin the state and the major program WITHIN that same state - UGA - hasn't won one since 1980.

I agree that having a recruiting hotbed in your backyard HELPS, it just isn't nearly everything like some suggest. Top talent goes to top programs no matter where they are.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:33 am to
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I keep getting the feeling it will be someone like Doreen at NC. Maybe not him but someone like him. Riley and Kiffin are posters wet dreams


Kiffin's wet dream is being the LSU HC. He had Sexton leak to Jake Crain, et al. that Odom would be hired as DC if he was hired as the head coach.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37543 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:40 am to
Ohio State has an incredible recruiting pipeline/scheme that goes back to the Woody Hayes era.The only state that comes close is Alabama.It's about quality of recruits not quantity. They have known how to identify their needs from the times these kids are Sophomores and know how to lock them up before the end of their Junior year.

I had a boss years ago from Massilon, Ohio , who used to tell me how Woody had developed the pipeline and kept tabs on all these kids. Physicals, coaches that ran the same offense. Times on the box drill. What injuries they may have had in High School and for Woody.....grades. He would start off talking about a recruit's grades. There was a joke that Woody knew your grades before you did if you were a recruit. That process continues to this day apparently.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
8272 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:42 am to
IF Oklahoma was staying in the Big 12 we would have a shot. But the fact they are moving into the SEC kind of makes me think there is no way.
Posted by bayoubengal4life
North of tha lake
Member since Oct 2006
1088 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:46 am to
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Going from Oklahoma to LSU is a lateral move. Riley is already paid a lot and Oklahoma can afford to match anything that LSU can pay. Oklahoma will be in the SEC within the next four years, and, if we move to pods, will likely be in the easiest pod.

There is precedent for lateral moves, but that usually entailed a coach leaving their school outside the SEC to go to the SEC (eg, Jimbo Fisher and Brett Bielema).

Sorry, but the idea of Riley to LSU doesn't make sense.


I don’t know why but this post makes me feel more like the talk may be legit. This isn’t the first time that a seemingly impossible target has been brought up and locked in on this board, but I never recall the man coming out and squashing our dreams before. Maybe it really is happening…
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