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re: Raymond/Diaco?

Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13331 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:17 pm to
LSU usually pays our coordinators the most money compared to the rest of the ncaa
Why would we settle for Diaco
Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
474 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:23 pm to
Eric Henderson Wikipedia

seems he worked for Frank for a year at UTSA
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3889 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Please tell me why it would be a bad hire. Preferably with stats to back it up.



Gave up 30 ppg


Fired from Purdue in 2020
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6572 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:45 pm to
Would be a fricking terrible move, worse move possible. BK will be gone in 2 years if he decides to go that way.
Posted by CRW
Destrahan
Member since Aug 2016
1101 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:23 pm to
You people have no idea what you are posting about.He
got fired AT PURDUE ,yea they are known as a great defense
school.Yea they have more 4 ND 5 stars than Bama,RIGHT!!
The negativity come from fans who NEVER WANTED BK in the
first place. Diaco has more football knowledge in his
little finger than anyone on this board.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19749 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:39 pm to
I imagine he’s close with Frank being that he hired him as his DL coach for his first college HC job at UTSA
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26834 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

see decisions to promote analysis to DL and ST coaches before season, not a good idea


Considering the situation and the timing, it was the best idea possible. Really, the only idea.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45162 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Gave up 30 ppg
. At Purdue
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52809 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:42 pm to
Saw this from a ND fan when we promoted Diaco:

quote:

Coach Kelly must keep Diaco as far away from the schematic side of defensive planning as possible. Diaco is a micro-managing clockwork mechanism defensive coach. And he's great at that. LSU on the other hand competes with the biggest boys by having elite athletes who are (with discipline) allowed to go full animal batshit when that moment arises. That is, they are NOT totally predictable as Diaco defenses were.

We saw to our great pain what a masterful strategist planner could do to a great set of defensive players constricted by absolute rigor to a plan. In Manti's great year, we should have at least been able to initiate defensive resistance to that Alabama team, but after the game we found out why not (and it was Diaco's constricted system.)

Alabama had a terrific OLine. Chance Warmack was the first or second best guard in the country, DJ Fluker was the third or fourth best tackle, and Barton Jones was the third best center. Jones was the spokesman for that line. After the game he commented on the ND defense: "They're good because they're simple; but they're simple." He went on to say that everyone on the Alabama line and the RB knew what every ND player was going to do precisely before the snap just by line-up array. No straight-up physical battles really needed to be won (and with guys like Tuitt, Nix, Teo, KLM that would not ALWAYS be an Alabama win) because all they needed to do on most plays was outposition the great players by superior angles. ND was NEVER in the game despite some really top players.

After the game, reporters asked Lou Nix about the game. Lou of course couldn't have known all this. He erupted at the reporter's thought that Alabama's OLine had dominated ND's DLine. "Do you think that Jones dominated ME!!!?" Well Lou, our happy DT warrior, Jones DID. He did it NOT by confronting you, but while you were making the big efforts to penetrate and stonewall, Alabama was running just the slightest other way, and you were always walled off and not an issue for them.

That was Diaco's micro-management rigid clocksystem losing the game. We might have lost anyway, but it would have looked like a ball game with some unpredictability. Kelly cannot let Diaco mess around with his DCs scheme, or LSUs traditional superior area of play will tank.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44574 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

I'd rather have Bill busch back before Raymond.


Why?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158769 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:27 pm to
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LSUs traditional superior area of play will tank.


Well this is already out the window
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2786 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:39 pm to
2020 Purdue Firing

It's old, but the description of what Diaco's defensive strategy sounds eerily like LSU's 2023 season.

"The 47-year-old Diaco hasn’t had the desired impact running the Boilermaker defense and is a big reason why the team finished 2-4 and lost its last four games. Diaco installed a defense that could flex between a 3-4 and a 4-3 and wasn't overly aggressive from a blitz standpoint.

After a strong start to the season in a 24-20 victory vs. Iowa, the Purdue defense took steps back. The unit struggled to get off the field on third downs and to consistently create turnovers and pressure the quarterback. In the last four games, opponents converted 49 percent of their third downs (30-of-61) and the Boilermakers had just one takeaway and two sacks."
Posted by winntiger
318
Member since Jul 2004
1259 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:47 pm to
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Why would a guy go from being perhaps the best DL coach in the NFL to being a college DL coach?


A couple hundred thousand dollars more a year in his home state is just a guess.
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
761 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:54 pm to
How would we feel about Eric Henderson if he was the D line hire?
Nevermind, looks like it would be a grand slam
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30404 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

quote:

Please tell me why it would be a bad hire. Preferably with stats to back it up.




Gave up 30 ppg




So like Aranda when he was at Hawaii?
Posted by Words
Member since Sep 2004
652 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

That'd be a fireable offense for Brian Kelly.


Half of y'all still think Kevin Steele cant coach Defense
Posted by brennans flip flops
Georgia
Member since Jan 2022
455 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:49 pm to
When we hired Steele we had a top tier defense and it fell back a couple spots. I think most posters didn’t give it time because by the end of the year you could see that Steele had most the defense locked in. In hindsight I think we would be lucky to have Steele. Also he is a very good recruiter. After reading all the above wow I hope Diaco isn’t DC
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3889 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

So like Aranda when he was at Hawaii?


Yeah... comparing a guy in his 1st stint as a Defensive Coordinator at the FBS level versus a guy getting fired from his 6th stop as DC makes a lot of sense...
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10961 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:55 pm to
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I’m fine with diaco with a short leash. Surround him with a great staff and I’m not sure Raymond is that guy
Diaco was the guy that "Staged the Coups" at half-time of the A&M game and installed the Cover 2 Trail in 10 minutes.

I'd rather him that Pennywise, but would rather a proven SEC commodity. (Will "Wade" Muschamp)

No Raymond.

Over rated at LSU and one of those "Used Car Salesmen" that can recruit, but can't coach.

Not good enough for Sun Belt Billy, but he's now good enough for a return to LSU, huh?

No fricking way!
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2365 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:40 am to
quote:

I'd rather have Bill busch back before Raymond.


Why?



Because he's a better DB coach and a very good recruiter
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