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re: List the “Destination” jobs in the SEC
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:49 pm to Hawgeye
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:49 pm to Hawgeye
I get that both universities are in a talent rich area. But I also believe the landscape of CFB is a bit different now. It's not just UT & TAMU as the only options in the state. Then you have schools like OU,Okla St,BAMA,UGA,UF & LSU going into the state and grabbing players.
I think that TAMU is opearting in the range that it kind of should be at the moment. They weren't killing it in the Big 12 back in the day and now they have other powerhouse programs to deal with in their own division.
I think that TAMU is opearting in the range that it kind of should be at the moment. They weren't killing it in the Big 12 back in the day and now they have other powerhouse programs to deal with in their own division.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:49 pm to Hawgeye
I guess everyone has a different definition, to me it’s “if a coach continues to meet the expectations of the fan base, will that school be able to keep him long term”. I have no doubt we would be able to do that and I think Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee all qualify as such in the SEC
You can rank those jobs how you want but I don’t see a coach leaving one of those schools for another college job if the school really wants to keep him, unless there is some sort of strong personal connection
You can rank those jobs how you want but I don’t see a coach leaving one of those schools for another college job if the school really wants to keep him, unless there is some sort of strong personal connection
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:51 pm to JBeam
quote:and i would say that with the amount of money that a&m is throwing into its program, the size of the fanbase, the quality of facilities that it has, and the local talent available would suggest that a&m is underachieving
I think that TAMU is opearting in the range that it kind of should be at the moment.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:09 pm to LSUminati
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Exactly. With Scott Woodward as LSU's AD, Jimbo Fisher goes to LSU in 2015 making 6.5-7 per and Woodward isn't looking back. Loser mentality in our AD right now.
And still losing 2-3 games a year and getting whipped by Bama while Jimbo sits around fat and happy being loyal to shitty assistants
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:12 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
LSU but our current President may not ever sign off on a $5 million plus coach anymore.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:28 pm to rocket31
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and paid him handsomely
Isn't he only making 3.5 million? That's no longer being paid handsomely in the P5 conferences.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:44 pm to tjv305
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Mississippi State is not as good of a job as Arkansas. Arkansas
MSU has a built in recruiting advantage as well as facilities that compete with Arky's. I'd give MSU a slight edge there. Also MSU has won 6 out of the last 10, further proving my case.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:54 pm to Reservoir dawg
State had never won in Arkansas until 2013 and won 4 of 5 against Bielema.
That doesn’t make it a better program in any way only recent success against overmatched HC.
That doesn’t make it a better program in any way only recent success against overmatched HC.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:02 pm to RazorHawg
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State had never won in Arkansas until 2013 and won 4 of 5 against Bielema.
That doesn’t make it a better program in any way only recent success against overmatched HC.
Just like we had overmatched HC during Croom years. Same deal.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:08 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
These schools can win a natty with the right coach: Bama, Auburn, Lsu, A&M, UF and UT
These schools can be 8-10 wins and occasional contender every 3-4 yrs with the right coach: AR, Missouri, SC, Miss St and maybe Ole Miss (if they escape the worst ncaa scenario)
These schools can be 8-10 wins and occasional contender every 3-4 yrs with the right coach: AR, Missouri, SC, Miss St and maybe Ole Miss (if they escape the worst ncaa scenario)
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:36 pm to Aggiehoss04
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UT
You misspelled UGA
If UF/UGA are good, Tennessee is closer to The tier below than inclusion in the top tier
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:37 pm to rocket31
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and paid him handsomely
They actually got him pretty cheaply.
If LSU had a competent AD who didn't just pitch a fit and throw in the towel after Hermann spurned him, they'd likely have a "name" coach in place.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:41 pm to Covingtontiger77
Tennessee is definitely below Texas A&M now imo, plus Tennessee has been worse than TAMU for over a decade.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:44 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Texas A&M
well I've seen coaches leave Tennessee for better jobs so I think that makes them a stepping stone
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:48 pm to Greace
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1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. Georgia
5 Auburn
6.Tennessee
7. Texas A&M
Swap florida and lsu and you're right. The top 2 are alabama and LSU. Florida is 3, georgia is 4th and auburn is behind them at 5.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:51 pm to rocket31
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i think A&M is highly underrated on this board
I don't know, I think they're generally pretty dead on at about 5 or 6. They don't have quite the history of some of the older SEC powerhouses.
That could change with a couple good hires.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:53 pm to Aggiehoss04
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These schools can win a natty with the right coach: Bama, Auburn, Lsu, A&M, UF and UT
UT is way too much of a zoo to get the right coach to win a natty right now, and UF isn't far behind.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:55 pm to WestCoastAg
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and i would say that with the amount of money that a&m is throwing into its program, the size of the fanbase, the quality of facilities that it has, and the local talent available would suggest that a&m is underachieving
Ehh, LSU had the highest paid staff in the country for maybe 3 seasons in a row very recently and still lost at least 3 games a year.
Kinda hard to fairly judge as long as Saban is still winning 7-8 SEC games a year.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:06 pm to Alt26
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But whoever comes after Saban will be walking into a HUGE shadow of expectations
Other than the money he'll get, I won't envy that guy the pressure he'll be under.
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