Posted by
Message
Draconian Sanctions
LSU Fan
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
66079 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

What’s more likely, he’s talking about 2017 or 1999?


How about both?

quote:

You were unclear


Wrong


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
02
RuLSU
Rutgers Fan
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
6035 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

That's how far our program was set back between Archer and Saban.

Huh? Really?

Let's be real. Mike Archer took over a decent team and failed to recruit properly. LSU went from 10-1 to 5-6.

That said, Mike Archer is not the reason LSU hired Curley Hallman, or replaced Hallman with DiNardo.

Don't blame Mike Archer for the AD's mistakes. When did LSU take a step into the national spotlight?

LSU became a national power when they stopped hiring from Louisiana / SEC and hired the best coach in the Big Ten.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
40
rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
4246 posts
 Online 

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
Aranda obviously equivalent


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
beauchristopher
LSU Fan
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
45643 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
I guess you can do it when you have an established offensive culture and coaches who actually KNOW how to coordinate one side of the ball..

you know, x and o type of guys..
This post was edited on 12/4 at 3:35 pm


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
10
TouchdownTony
Alabama Fan
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
4690 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
Oklahoma
Ohio state
LSU

One of these isn't like the others.


IDVague
Austin Peay Fan
Clarksville, TN
Member since Nov 2015
92 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
Cholly Mac?


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
10
Tigerfan56
LSU Fan
Member since May 2010
6942 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
Why would you take a chance on an up and coming young coach when you can get a proven guy with a 10-25 career record as head coach?


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
10
H-Town Tiger
Houston Astros Fan
Member since Nov 2003
49118 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

Because of Mike Archer 30 fricking years ago baw


I didn’t say it was wise


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
tjv305
Florida Fan
Member since May 2015
5702 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
A lot of those coaches came into good situations and were already on the staff. A first time head coach would have been better the coach O. Everyone already knows that coach O is average at best .


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
20
Jorts 'R Us
Jacksonville Fan
Member since Aug 2013
8803 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
Because not every one is a Lincoln Riley. And Ryan Day’s signature victory was a bad TCU team. Let’s see what happens before we annoint him the next best thing.


TD SponsorTD Fan
USA
Member since 2001
Thank you for supporting our sponsors
Advertisement
Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
8433 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
I wanted to hire Jimbo when Saban left.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
10
Damone
Colorado State Fan
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
13598 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

One of these isn't like the others.

Correct, LSU and OSU both have multiple national championships since OU's last championship.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
31
td01241
Georgia Fan
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
14079 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
Damn you’re an idiot on multiple boards. Your OP is right though. No school should be “too good” to hire assistants


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
armytiger96
Army Fan
Member since Sep 2007
625 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
I have been questioning this philosophy for a while. Here is a list of coaches that never would have been considered to coach at LSU as a first time coach and had great success at their respective programs:

Chip Kelly
Gary Patterson
Bob Stoops
Dabo Sweeny
David Shaw
Jimbo Fisher
Mike Gundy
Kirby Smart
Lincoln Riley




Ace Midnight
LSU Fan
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
65182 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

Dabo was also a first time HC.




Kirby was a first time HC.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
Datbayoubengal
LSU Fan
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
21506 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

Stoops wasn’t a promotion



Why is this downvoted? Stoops definitely wasn't a promotion.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
11
RuLSU
Rutgers Fan
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
6035 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

Chip Kelly
Gary Patterson
Bob Stoops
Dabo Sweeny
David Shaw
Jimbo Fisher
Mike Gundy
Kirby Smart
Lincoln Riley

Dave Aranda...


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
H-Town Tiger
Houston Astros Fan
Member since Nov 2003
49118 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

I have been questioning this philosophy for a while. Here is a list of coaches that never would have been considered to coach at LSU as a first time coach and had great success at their respective programs: Chip Kelly
Gary Patterson
Bob Stoops
Dabo Sweeny
David Shaw
Jimbo Fisher
Mike Gundy
Kirby Smart
Lincoln Riley


I too have been questioning this philosophy but most of this list is pure 20/20 hindsight. We could probably comprise a list 10 times longer of guys that failed. Of that list the only guys LSU should reasonably have considered would be Fisher, Stoops, Smart and maybe Shaw and Riley.


Overbrook
Tulane Fan
Member since May 2013
4875 posts
 Online 

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
McClendon, Stovall, Archer...you’ve been there.
Even O wasn’t exactly hired because of his work at Ole Miss.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
armytiger96
Army Fan
Member since Sep 2007
625 posts

re: If Ohio State and Oklahoma can hire first time HC’s, why can’t LSU?
quote:

most of this list is pure 20/20 hindsight


Of course it is. It’s not a list of “these are coaches” that we missed on but instead demonstrate the potential upside of coaches that wouldn’t get any interest because of our current philosophy.

You can also make a long list of proven head coaches that have failed as well such as Kevin Sumlin, Rich Rodriguez, Larry Fedora, etc.

My point is our current philosophy significantly limits potential to get the next great coach.


first pageprev pagePage 3 of 4next pagelast page

Back to top

logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram