re: Has anyone actually watched a Brady coached offense in the pros?

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What will likely happen is Rhule will also be back in college in a year or two. Brady's firing was a sacrifice so he could keep his job another year. I don't think Brady is blameless but he's definitely not 100% to blame for Carolina's offense.

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I don't disagree with this one at all, Brady was a sacrifice for Rhule to keep his job.

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You are acting like the NFL and NCAAF are the same thing. He does have some growing to do but people are acting like because he didn't do well in the NFL he isn't ready to be an OC in college. I don't see it that way because a lot of his struggles in the NFL were out of his control. Look at this year. Carolina has a garbage o line and his QB and RB were hurt. That's an impossible situation to do well in for just about any OC in the NFL. Second, there are plenty of great college coaches who have sucked or would definitely suck in the NFL. Think about the best college HCs right now. How many of them do you think would do well or did well as a HC in the NFL? The two just aren't comparable, and two years isn't exactly a long time to build your roster in the NFL.

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I would agree with this, but the Pootz situation this year at LSU gives me pause to want Brady hired right now to be the OC. Their issues mirrored each other and I would be wary of the risk.

Now, I understand that they re 2 different people and would love to see Brady kicking arse at LSU for the next 10 years, but let's not kid ourselves, 2019 was a complete team effort with Brady being a key piece, but not THE piece. He may well be an elite college OC one day, but his noted disdain for recruiting also is a red flag. It is up to him to prove his worth and that may prove to be the fuel to get him to the next level as a coach.

Either way, he was a part of the greatest NCAA team ever and deserves credit for that.

Hey man I think we are on the same page with this one.

I'm not saying he's a guaranteed homerun hire as OC but I do think he would do well here. I think most of our fanbase would be upset with him though when he doesn't somehow make every offense as good as 2019.

Honestly I don't see Kelly remotely interested in hiring him anyway. Why would you hire a guy you have no familiarity with and was part of the last coach's championship team? I just don't see it. This is more of a "dear diary" entry from our fan base. I am honestly surprised people are still talking about it like it's even a real possibility at this point.

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Brady was part of a team with Ensminger. Brady was not the sole OC while at LSU. That seems to be lost on many.

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I don’t think so. I actually believe that him not being the full time OC at LSU is what has kept him from getting the objective credit that he should get when it came to QB development and offensive scheme.

Carolina is all McCaffrey. No McCaffrey, no offense. That's what the GM and Rhule want. Carolina dances with the Devil every year, in terms of McCaffrey and injuries. Rhule's head is in the block now.

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The problem is he has no star QB.

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Y’all are applying a general principle to a specific situation. Yes, it’s hard to look good in the NFL with a bad QB, in general. But that doesn’t necessarily explain what happened with the Panthers. To have an informed opinion about Brady’s performance there, you’d have to look deeper than just who his QB was.
Some posters in this thread are providing that further information, and people seem to just be ignoring it.

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You saw what he did at the college level with a seasoned play caller actually calling the plays while having discussion/input from Brady. How did he do in college when he called plays and was in control of the offense?

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Maybe he and Kelly wouldn’t be a great fit together, but how would our current situation be that much different than what Brady had here before? The only difference would be that the head coach would be the primary over the offense, rather than an existing OC.

I don’t think Kelly will be hands-off with the offense here and he’s been hiring younger guys as OCs to run his offense at ND with success. Brady may not be the guy, but it’s probably going to be someone in that same mold who gets this job.

NFL can chew up and spit some of the best coaches. many came back to college.

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If you have, you would see how his offense has regressed from year 1 to year 2

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Teddy B>Sam Darnold

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I live in Charlotte you dolt

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We might be neighbors

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I go to games here

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Me too

As a Charlottean, how many of your neighbors and fellow season ticket holders reached out to you in disbelief that Brady was fired?

My neighbors were excited to see what he would do with the offense when he came here in 2020. As a LSU supporter, there was a sense of pride in his hiring and was optimistic that he would be successful. The success never came and as many others have pointed out in this thread, he can't shirk responsibility. Can't have it both ways - take credit for the success of the 2019 team while deflect blame for the 2020 and 2021 struggles.

Brady's time at LSU should be taken in context. He was a co-coordinator, so his decision making ability as a play caller is only somewhat known. His ability to recruit is in question. His desire to be in the college ranks is also in question. His time in the NFL was disappointing. It must also be mentioned that his 2019 LSU offense featured the Heisman winner, the Biletnikoff winner, The Joe Moore award winners, and a Hornung award finalist. His offense that season featured 4 first rounders, a second rounder, 2 third rounders, a fourth, a sixth, and a 7th. There will be more drafted this season.