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Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:57 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Gary Patterson (was a DC for only 3 years before HC)
David Shaw (Was a OC for only 3 years before HC)
Mark Dantonio (Was a DC for only 2 years before HC)
Brian Kelly (Was a DC for only 2 years before HC)
You see a trend here?
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:58 pm to tigerwith3
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Well you brought up usc so his only head coaching stop would seem relevant. If he's learned so much then why are no power 5 jobs knocking his door down? He should show what he's learned at a lesser program for multiple years before he's handed a job like LSU.
My point is, nobody is ever 100% proven unless you are Saban or Urban.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:59 pm to BilJ
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Herman unproven, Jimbo has doubts....Ed rolled up a shite team and you're all in?
When did I say I was all-in? If he loses a couple I'm not sold. I never said hire him right now.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:02 pm to Goldrush25
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You see a trend here?
Why'd you leave out Jim?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:06 pm to CapperVin
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would be such a Johnny Jones hire
This. I can think of about 6-7 names I'd take before him
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Why'd you leave out Jim?
Harbaugh does not help your case. He's won everywhere he's been a HC. And he did it starting at the bottom.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Why'd you leave out Jim?
The other guys were only coordinators for a couple of years because they were so good they had to be promoted.
Plus he's been a dominant HC from his first year.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:11 pm to Goldrush25
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Gary Patterson (was a DC for only 3 years before HC)
was promoted from the team he was already on the staff of when the previous coach left for a new job
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David Shaw (Was a OC for only 3 years before HC)
was promoted from the team he was already on the staff of when the previous coach left for a new job (and he had connections to the school)
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Mark Dantonio (Was a DC for only 2 years before HC)
had previous ties to the university and took a HC job at Cincy
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Brian Kelly (Was a DC for only 2 years before HC)
was promoted from the team he was already on the staff of - Grand Valley State
The better example would be Urban Meyer, who got a HC job despite having not ever been a coordinator.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:12 pm to Random LSU Hero
i think people are overreacting to this post. Pushing all the right buttons doesnt mean he is our next HC. If you've followed Random's posts at all you know they will interview other people, and that they will evaluate Coach O at the end of this season. He's only coached 1 game, i mean holy frick, come on guys. Dont be so simple minded.
He has done a lot of things right. I read the other day he visited 9 schools in one day while recruiting. He has let old players come back to speak to team. He has lightened up practice. All this stuff is helping his cause, but it doesnt mean the job is his.
He has done a lot of things right. I read the other day he visited 9 schools in one day while recruiting. He has let old players come back to speak to team. He has lightened up practice. All this stuff is helping his cause, but it doesnt mean the job is his.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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My point is, nobody is ever 100% proven unless you are Saban or Urban.
I agree. It's always somewhat of an uncertainty when hiring a new coach, but herman and jimbo have succeeded in their one coaching stop. O has failed miserably. He may have learned from his mistakes, but he should prove it before a stop like LSU.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Lol you think everyone loves him just for bringing old players and opening practice to the media?
Basically. Winning over the media turns them into your mouth piece and they can swing everything into a "OMG COACH O" moment
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SEC record of yards
Against a very BAD team. Whopty frickin do
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:21 pm to Random LSU Hero
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"Coach O pushing all the right buttons."
I think this is obvious. Doesnt mean much in this whole process though
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:24 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Lol you think everyone loves him just for bringing old players and opening practice to the media?
How about a SEC record of yards in a game? How about an open offense. A shortened practice schedule that our players are raving about?
You don’t get it.
No one seems to get it.
Ed Orgeron has built and managed one program. Ole Miss. Do you know what happened to the one program that has ever trusted him to build it his way?
At Ole Miss:
They were historically bad. He was DRAMATICALLY worse than his predecessor and successor in terms of winning football games. Don’t bring up the fricking stupid Bill Belichick argument who was one the better Browns coaches in that era and didn’t get along with mgmt. Orgeron was 3-21 in the SEC and got worse every year. As the program became more “his” it got far fricking worse. Year 3, starting most of his players, Ole Miss finished the season 0–8 against fellow SEC teams, and 3–9 overall. It was the program's first winless (conference) season since 1982.
At USC:
He did not build USC. He did not hire those coaches that called ALL of the plays and had BOTH coordinators to run a system already in place. He also did not choose most of those players. That was NOT his program. Period. He took over USC and beat someone he shouldn’t, had a terrible loss, and walked through 5 cupcakes using energy to pump up his vast talent advantage.
At LSU:
He did not build LSU. He did not hire those coaches that have called ALL of the plays. He has one coordinator who is elite and promoted a guy who knows the system already in place that is not his. He did not choose most of these players. This is NOT his program. Period. He has beaten shitty Missouri using energy to pump up his vast talent advantage.
If LSU hires Ed Orgeron as its next head coach, we will not be better than 8 wins a year. LSU fans have been craving an intelligent head coach that matches wit with guys like Saban and Meyer. We have spent years dealing with a head coach that is a good guy, that recruits well, but is not very intelligent, yet people want to do that all over again?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:26 pm to TheCaterpillar
This one talks like us tho!
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:26 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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How about a SEC record of yards in a game? How about an open offense
Guess they should go ahead and hire Ensminger full time then, too. Since Coach O is so hands off, should he really be getting the credit for the Mizzou game?
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:27 pm to Random LSU Hero
Lol well we will stay in mediocrity for a long time.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:27 pm to Lester Earl
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i think people are overreacting to this post. Pushing all the right buttons doesnt mean he is our next HC. If you've followed Random's posts at all you know they will interview other people, and that they will evaluate Coach O at the end of this season. He's only coached 1 game, i mean holy frick, come on guys. Dont be so simple minded. He has done a lot of things right. I read the other day he visited 9 schools in one day while recruiting. He has let old players come back to speak to team. He has lightened up practice. All this stuff is helping his cause, but it doesnt mean the job is his.
I think that's kind of been the theme since the coaching change. There is panic at the least bit of praise for O that he might get considered for HC and there is too much hype after the sense of dread we've endured under Miles' plodding ways these past few years. Everyone needs to take a deep breath and let the process play out.
I'll continue to celebrate the positives after years of watching a talented team on a rudderless ship list in the waves.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:29 pm to TheCaterpillar
And I think Ed O is valuable for us. He has made some refreshing changes this season to re-energize the fanbase and team. That’s exactly what he did at USC.
The only time he has been asked to provide sustained success in a program he built and managed, he was one of the worst of all time in our conference.
Is LSU the right place to “test” to see if he learned from all of his mistakes? Are we a guinea pig program? Or are we a fricking monster football program that should hire championship caliber coaches?
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