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re: 75-17 versus 20-28
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:35 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:35 am to Topwater Trout
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A coach is only as good as his record
Do I really need to provide examples that proves this wrong?
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:41 am to ellessuuuu
All I can say is the decision is not nearly as simple as some make it out to be. Jimbo is the safest hire but by far is the most expensive route. Herman and Fedora have had some success but neither has really built and maintained a program. O seems to be able to run a team but there is no proof he can run a program.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:42 am to tuptiger
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I wish I could pull threads from post Rohan/Josh Reed year under Fisher. I'd be willing to be most wanted him fired.
the '03 season that we won our first NC since '58?
the #1 and #2 all-time LSU passing seasons?
would it be 5 of the top 10 passing yardage seasons at LSU are held by quarterbacks Jimbo coached?
5 of the top 10 highest single game passing yards in LSU history was under Jimbo?
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:44 am to Nutriaitch
Yes, if you throw Flynn in the equation that number goes up to 5. I was being conservative and only going with the seasons he coached. But it is clear from a review the LSU offensive record book who our best OC was in the history of the program.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:51 am to RATeamWannabe
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And you people ignore the facts presented and immediately just go back to "but at Ole Miss.."
What good football teams has he beat at USC or LSU?
Stanford and ..... ? (p.s. he had more talent than Stanford)
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:05 pm to SportTiger1
when was the last time we beat a good football team?
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:07 pm to Cadello
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What if: Jimbo was hired and failed miserably.
He wouldnt fail, he would thrive with our talent and resources.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:07 pm to tuptiger
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But pay the man Harbaugh money
Considering his resume' as a HC in college is stronger than Harbough's, yea you pay the man Harbaugh money.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:07 pm to ellessuuuu
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Knock yourself out.
won national titles
Jimmy Johnson 21-21-2
Lou Holtz 13-20
Gene Chizik 13-24
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:11 pm to GCTiger11
quote:Are there people giving any apposing opinions? I sincerely hope this is not the only access to social media Alleva has. I hope he doesn't think the entire fanbase wants O and only O.
The amount of retards who comment on the various LSU facebook pages is absolutely terrifying
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:12 pm to ellessuuuu
But, but he talks like us!
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:17 pm to Topwater Trout
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Jimmy Johnson 21-21-2
Actually he was 29-25-3 at Oklahoma State before heading to Miami. Still better than 20-28
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Lou Holtz 13-20
At William and Mary College.... He was then 33-12 at NC State, 60-21 at Arkansas, 10-12 at Minnesota, and 100-32 at Notre Dame before heading to South Carolina 3 years after
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Gene Chizik 13-24
I think we all know what really happened with the guy... Cam Newton
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:17 pm to SmellslikeKevinBacon
Great person, but O talks like a dumbarse honestly..
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:28 pm to Topwater Trout
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won national titles
Jimmy Johnson 21-21-2
Lou Holtz 13-20
Gene Chizik 13-24
Context is your friend or are you trying to intentionally be dishonest by cherry picking to promote "your guy"
Yes, Lou Holtz was 13-20 at William and Mary, he was then hired, not by Notre Dame or some other elite program, but NC State where he went 33-12-3. From there he went to Arkansas where he was 60-21-2. He did stop at Minnesota were he was 10-12 however, they were 1-10 the year before he was hired and he went 4-7, then 6-5. So when he was hired by an elite, top 5 (at the time) program his record wasn't 13-20, but 116-65-2. LINK
Jimmy Johnson was actually 29-25-3 at OK St (not sure where you got 21-21-2) before going to Miami. Once again a little context is order. Miami had just won the NC it's true before hiring JJ, however, just 5 month's earlier they were completely off the radar and were not yet considered an elite program. Also Schellenberger left in mid January for the USFL, so not exactly a great time to look for a coach and well, the world was different in 1984. Then coaches didn't change jobs as much. Most of the big programs promoted from within rather than hire an existing HC.
Chizik was WIDELY ridiculed as a hire and rightly so. He landed one of the all time greats in Newton* and rode him to a NC. His 2nd best season was 8-5. His overall record is 38-38, without the clear outlier 14-0 season he is 24-38.
*and before someone says Fisher only won with Winston he is 48-16 without Winston, that's a far cry from the Chiz without Cam.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Dig into O's 10 IC wins and what you find is he beat 9 teams he should have with 1 quality win : His wins : Stanford 11-3, Arizona 8-5, Ore State 7-6, Utah 5-7, Colorado 4-8, Cal 1-11, Mizzo 3-7, So Miss 5-5, OM 5-5, Arky 6-4.
His 3 losses as IHC? Notre Dame 9-4, UCLA 10-3, Alabama 10-0. Those are the 3 biggest games for USC and LSU .
Finally, someone gets it.
The whole thing has been fool's gold. It's a down year in the SEC. If we win out, none of O's wins will be against a team with less than 4 losses.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:32 pm to ellessuuuu
quote:If that is your only criteria maybe we should just rehire Les Miles.
75-17 versus 20-28
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:33 pm to tuptiger
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I wish I could pull threads from post Rohan/Josh Reed year under Fisher. I'd be willing to be most wanted him fired.
and then he went to FSU and racked up a 75-17 record, won a title, had 3 first round draft picks at QB, and made the first ever CFP
some of you people are so fricking ridiculous
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:34 pm to Nutriaitch
good luck getting a response
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:35 pm to Topwater Trout
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when was the last time we beat a good football team?
oh ok so frick it then
we don't beat good teams
so let's hire O
sound logic
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:36 pm to tuptiger
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I wish I could pull threads from post Rohan/Josh Reed year under Fisher. I'd be willing to be most wanted him fired.
Holy shite.
I don't care who was the OC when they were playing, someone says Rohan/Reed, "hire whoever that was".
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