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Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
Fox Sports College Football analyst Joel Klatt was on the "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" and gave his take on Ed Orgeron's hot seat situation at LSU. Per 247Sports:
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“It's hard to defend his record,” Klatt said. “And you can say, ‘What do you mean he won the national championship?’ He struck lightning in a bottle with a transfer quarterback that had a magical season with a young coordinator that was doing things that were very unique in the conference offensively. They had great weapons around him. That was a lightning in a bottle year that was one of the great teams in college football history that just kind of manifested. Now he has a lot to do with that, but then he lost those two coordinators Joe Brady and Dave Aranda. Remember Dave Aranda took the job at Baylor and he's doing a nice job (there). So he had to retool his staff and he hired guys that he had to fire the next year, including Bo Pelini, who was a disaster defensively. If you take, and I know this is not fair to do, but if you look at his record at LSU, and you take the 15-0 out … it’s not great …

“They measure themselves with Alabama. How are we competing with Alabama … If you throw out the Ole Miss years and the Joe Burrow year and you see what he is, he’s basically a .600 coach. I’m sorry, .600 does not work at LSU. Not with the standard they've set within the sport.”

Oregon is 64-43 overall as a head coach with Ole Miss, USC and LSU. Taking out the 15-0 record, Orgeron is actually 49-43 which is just over a 53% winning percentage.

As Klatt said, throwing out the 15-0 year and his three Ole miss seasons, and for good measure, his quick USC stint, Orgeron is just 33-16 as LSU’s head coach.
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JustinT3730 months
If we were to throw out any year it would be the COVID bs year.
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If you take out the greatest cfb season of all time hes never even had the greatest cfb season of all time
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sportjunkie6931 months
Myles Brennan doesn't get injured last year or this summer and we're probably not having this conversation. Johnson is really good, but he's started only 7 games in his college career. Fair to say he's still growing as a QB. But frankly, I don't see any Burrow in him yet, or Flynn for that matter. I see a guy who is talented, has a good arm and can throw accurately, has some maneuverability in the pocket...BUT doesn't yet understand how to attack a defense from the QB position. He's just going out and basically running the plays that are called. What made Burrow so great was that he understood how to attack the defense from the formation, where to go and who would be open. He also had 1 full year of SEC experience, 3 starting nfl OL in front of him, 3 stud NFL receivers - 2 of them likely All-Pros, and a stud NFL RB who could catch the ball and pick up blitzes. Once Johnson learns how to utilize the formation to find the open receiver or clear mismatch he'll be championship level. Until then he's just really good at running the plays called for him.
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Tiger198831 months
Brennan had a .500 record and lost to Mizzou. Johnson started the same number of games. Brennan has NEVER should mention me shite. So stop the crap and defending that POS Orgeron
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MT55531 months
Johnson isn't really good.
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KennabraTiger31 months
They didn’t convert a single third down against Mizzou
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BooBooMeister31 months
Why not throw out all the losses (insert reason here) and Coach O is 40-0, or whatever.
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zoom31 months
Use protection avoid the Klatt ~) Jimmy dugan
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SaintLSU31 months
Facts
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southsidedell31 months
You mean that thing that does not care about their feelings?
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Tigerpride1831 months
I don’t think he’s fired during the season unless we lose all the games until ulm and play like shite or lose to ulm and he’s gone in season but if it’s just an average season overall it won’t happen till the end of the year. Off the field is his biggest issue
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TommyDaTiger31 months
WRONG, that’s why I stopped reading after your first 3 words (which actually made lots of sense) I DONT THINK! Woody wants to try and salvage what’s left and finish 6-6 and win a shitty bowl game for 7-6 finish. After Ed comes home from Lexington with an L he’s gone………
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jimmy the leg31 months
I am not a huge Orgeron guy, but the team last year lost 20+ from the year before and BOTH coordinators, plus, due to Covid, really didn’t have a spring. So in reality, he is 28-11 at LSU. Is that good enough...nope. But frick this guy for being a disingenuous piece of shite.
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kciDAtaE31 months
Right. I’m not happy with Coach O but if you just toss out a 15-0 season, why do you keep a Covid season?
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Boudreaux Jones31 months
So basically he wants us to throw out his good year at USC and LSU and look at the rest. CEO doesn't have me convinced he's the guy anymore but "only look at his bad years" is a biased take.
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Bennie31 months
After 64 games at LSU, Saban was 48-16 with a national championship. After 64 games at LSU, O is 48-16 with a national championship. Which national championship season was better? 15-0 2019 easily. One of the greatest seasons of any college football team ever. The reality is O isn’t being compared to what Saban did at LSU, but rather what Saban has done at Alabama. Does O deserve another season to right the ship? The Saban at LSU data says of course. The Saban at Bama data says of course not. Tigers probably finish 6-6 this year and next year will have a new coach. Fair? No. But that’s the Saban effect on every SEC progress, especially LSU.
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Bennie31 months
*program. Not progress.
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southsidedell31 months
I think it is unfair to compare any coach to Saban. He is the greatest college coach ever. So lets compare O to the other coaches this century so far....comparable yes but none of those coaches have had potential back to back .500 seasons. Add all the off the field stuff too. The Title IX stuff. Its all just a bad look. LSU can do better than this. It deserves better. You as a fan and supporter deserves better than this.
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Dstllsu31 months
Saban didn't inherit the squad at LSU that O did. Saban I'd the one who built the program back up. Looking at only the record of each there doesn't work at all.
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Genestealer5531 months
If anyone doesn’t realize 15-0 is the exception (huge exception) and not the norm for O..then I just don’t know what to tell them.
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kciDAtaE31 months
In what world is 15-0 the norm for any coach? How many 15-0 seasons did Saban have?
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Robber DeNiro31 months
I don't wanna hear from Joe Klatt period.
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DomincDecoco31 months
Truth!!!!
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CharlesLSU31 months
Just sit back, go fishing and let the season play out…….it will take care of itself. This is a done deal
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Mister Ice31 months
I’m by no means a CEO fan, but when we start throwing out records of certain years it distorts the picture. Throw out Saban’s 13-1 natty in 2003 and his record at LSU is 35-15. Just an observation.
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dred2431 months
Agreed. All the throw out this and that is dumb. And I’m not an O fan. We can get rid of him today but lets not pretend he wasn’t the HC for one of the greatest college football teams ever!
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OU81231 months
Saban basically had to rebuild the program while O was given a roster stocked with 5 and 4 stars.
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JackieTreehorn31 months
Coach 0 talks like us though. And he cooks gumbo.
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TommyDaTiger31 months
But he puts eggs in da gumbo
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YMCA31 months
I agree that he needs to go, but why would you take out the 15-0 year? Call it what you want, but it still happened and he brought the people in that made it happen. That’s like saying, take away those two touchdowns they scored in the 1st quarter and we win. It doesn’t work that way.
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dcrews31 months
Not uncommon to eliminate the best and worst of a set. Brady and Aranda won that title for us in 2019. Anyone who believes Orgeron had any idea of what he had is a buffoon
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Mister Ice31 months
Well said…my point exactly
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Datbayoubengal31 months
It's how you get a good read on something. You take out the outlier like the awful Ole Miss and the 15-0 LSU you get a mediocre coach.
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Fstez6331 months
This is fire O stuff is craziness, we need 3 new solid online starters and our young players need some experience then we will be fine, I hate seeing LSU lose but people need to chill, it’s not unexpected to do some rebuilding after the natty and a COVID year. Don’t hit panic button yet, because tearing the program apart will be a huge set back. Les miles got fired because he wouldn’t change what clearly wasn’t working anymore, atleast coach O recognizes things and try’s to fix them, and I believe eventually he will if given the chance.
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Fstez6331 months
Ok the down votes are coming, but this is off-season talk, if the team continues to bomb then near the end of the season and off-season you figure it out. But it’s disrespectful to the players for the fans to try and start all this fire O drama less then half way through the year. It has a real effect on the program in a negative way.
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GeauxldMember31 months
Nice try, Ed!
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dcrews31 months
COVID is such a cop out. Other programs and teams managed just fine. COVID is not an excuse. EVERY team had to deal with it. Orgeron is responsible for the coordinators he hired and so far he's whiffed outside of Brady and given O's track record Brady was a lucky as hell hire.
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lsusteve131 months
"They had great weapons around him" This has always been the case.
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CDawson31 months
jm_1776 I don't disagree. My point is that without O we don't win the title in 2019. He was intricate in putting those pieces together, including Burrow, to make it happen. He may suck at the moment, but I wouldn't trade the 2019 season in exchange for LSU to go 11-2 or 12-1 every year with "the right hire". We been hearing about the "right hire" since Saban left.
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pitchandcatch2731 months
8-7 in last 15 games. A loss to Ky then hes toast. Coach O is just a Dline coach and nothing more.
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CDawson31 months
A Dline coach with a natty. I'll take it every time if you tell me we get 2019. It was glorious and that year doesn't happen without the Dline coach.
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jm_177631 months
CDawson- so how many more years like '20-'21 is LSU and this coach gonna have before the next one like '19? This program is tending downward with O at the helm and should've been going the opposite direction after the championship.
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