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Fox Sports' Joel Klatt Chimes In On The Ed Orgeron Hot-Seat Talk

by Staff Reporter

October 7, 202157 Comments

Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports

Fox Sports College Football analyst Joel Klatt was on the "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" and gave his take on Ed Orgeron's hot seat situation at LSU. Per 247Sports:

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“It's hard to defend his record,” Klatt said. “And you can say, ‘What do you mean he won the national championship?’ He struck lightning in a bottle with a transfer quarterback that had a magical season with a young coordinator that was doing things that were very unique in the conference offensively. They had great weapons around him. That was a lightning in a bottle year that was one of the great teams in college football history that just kind of manifested. Now he has a lot to do with that, but then he lost those two coordinators Joe Brady and Dave Aranda. Remember Dave Aranda took the job at Baylor and he's doing a nice job (there). So he had to retool his staff and he hired guys that he had to fire the next year, including Bo Pelini, who was a disaster defensively. If you take, and I know this is not fair to do, but if you look at his record at LSU, and you take the 15-0 out … it’s not great …

“They measure themselves with Alabama. How are we competing with Alabama … If you throw out the Ole Miss years and the Joe Burrow year and you see what he is, he’s basically a .600 coach. I’m sorry, .600 does not work at LSU. Not with the standard they've set within the sport.”

Oregon is 64-43 overall as a head coach with Ole Miss, USC and LSU. Taking out the 15-0 record, Orgeron is actually 49-43 which is just over a 53% winning percentage.

As Klatt said, throwing out the 15-0 year and his three Ole miss seasons, and for good measure, his quick USC stint, Orgeron is just 33-16 as LSU’s head coach.

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Boudreaux Jones•31 months

So basically he wants us to throw out his good year at USC and LSU and look at the rest. CEO doesn't have me convinced he's the guy anymore but "only look at his bad years" is a biased take.

Mister Ice•31 months

I’m by no means a CEO fan, but when we start throwing out records of certain years it distorts the picture. Throw out Saban’s 13-1 natty in 2003 and his record at LSU is 35-15. Just an observation.

dred24•31 months

Agreed. All the throw out this and that is dumb. And I’m not an O fan. We can get rid of him today but lets not pretend he wasn’t the HC for one of the greatest college football teams ever!

OU812•31 months

Saban basically had to rebuild the program while O was given a roster stocked with 5 and 4 stars.

YMCA•31 months

I agree that he needs to go, but why would you take out the 15-0 year? Call it what you want, but it still happened and he brought the people in that made it happen. That’s like saying, take away those two touchdowns they scored in the 1st quarter and we win. It doesn’t work that way.

dcrews•31 months

Not uncommon to eliminate the best and worst of a set. Brady and Aranda won that title for us in 2019. Anyone who believes Orgeron had any idea of what he had is a buffoon

Mister Ice•31 months

Well said…my point exactly

Datbayoubengal•31 months

It's how you get a good read on something. You take out the outlier like the awful Ole Miss and the 15-0 LSU you get a mediocre coach.

drexyl•31 months

I really think we can get someone great if we move on. I wanted him to succeed and I thought 2019 was proof he was the guy. I even gave him half a pass for the Covid year - but this is the product after all that? How in the holy hell can we not be able to run the football? It’s inexcusable.

BlackPot•31 months

Hate to say it, but if we fall this weekend, he's gone.

Bennie•31 months

After 64 games at LSU, Saban was 48-16 with a national championship. After 64 games at LSU, O is 48-16 with a national championship. Which national championship season was better? 15-0 2019 easily. One of the greatest seasons of any college football team ever. The reality is O isn’t being compared to what Saban did at LSU, but rather what Saban has done at Alabama. Does O deserve another season to right the ship? The Saban at LSU data says of course. The Saban at Bama data says of course not. Tigers probably finish 6-6 this year and next year will have a new coach. Fair? No. But that’s the Saban effect on every SEC progress, especially LSU.

Bennie•31 months

*program. Not progress.

southsidedell•31 months

I think it is unfair to compare any coach to Saban. He is the greatest college coach ever. So lets compare O to the other coaches this century so far....comparable yes but none of those coaches have had potential back to back .500 seasons. Add all the off the field stuff too. The Title IX stuff. Its all just a bad look. LSU can do better than this. It deserves better. You as a fan and supporter deserves better than this.

Dstllsu•31 months

Saban didn't inherit the squad at LSU that O did. Saban I'd the one who built the program back up. Looking at only the record of each there doesn't work at all.

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Robber DeNiro•31 months

I don't wanna hear from Joe Klatt period.

CharlesLSU•31 months

Just sit back, go fishing and let the season play out…….it will take care of itself. This is a done deal

pitchandcatch27•31 months

8-7 in last 15 games. A loss to Ky then hes toast. Coach O is just a Dline coach and nothing more.

CDawson•31 months

A Dline coach with a natty. I'll take it every time if you tell me we get 2019. It was glorious and that year doesn't happen without the Dline coach.

jm_1776•31 months

CDawson- so how many more years like '20-'21 is LSU and this coach gonna have before the next one like '19? This program is tending downward with O at the helm and should've been going the opposite direction after the championship.

jimmy the leg•31 months

I am not a huge Orgeron guy, but the team last year lost 20+ from the year before and BOTH coordinators, plus, due to Covid, really didn’t have a spring. So in reality, he is 28-11 at LSU. Is that good enough...nope. But frick this guy for being a disingenuous piece of shite.

kciDAtaE•31 months

Right. I’m not happy with Coach O but if you just toss out a 15-0 season, why do you keep a Covid season?

zoom•31 months

Use protection avoid the Klatt ~) Jimmy dugan

Cracker•31 months

He gone

TeamCKennedy•31 months

Amen

JustinT37•31 months

If we were to throw out any year it would be the COVID bs year.

sportjunkie69•31 months

Myles Brennan doesn't get injured last year or this summer and we're probably not having this conversation. Johnson is really good, but he's started only 7 games in his college career. Fair to say he's still growing as a QB. But frankly, I don't see any Burrow in him yet, or Flynn for that matter. I see a guy who is talented, has a good arm and can throw accurately, has some maneuverability in the pocket...BUT doesn't yet understand how to attack a defense from the QB position. He's just going out and basically running the plays that are called. What made Burrow so great was that he understood how to attack the defense from the formation, where to go and who would be open. He also had 1 full year of SEC experience, 3 starting nfl OL in front of him, 3 stud NFL receivers - 2 of them likely All-Pros, and a stud NFL RB who could catch the ball and pick up blitzes. Once Johnson learns how to utilize the formation to find the open receiver or clear mismatch he'll be championship level. Until then he's just really good at running the plays called for him.

Tiger1988•31 months

Brennan had a .500 record and lost to Mizzou. Johnson started the same number of games. Brennan has NEVER should mention me shite. So stop the crap and defending that POS Orgeron

MT555•31 months

Johnson isn't really good.

KennabraTiger•31 months

They didn’t convert a single third down against Mizzou

lsusteve1•31 months

"They had great weapons around him" This has always been the case.

CDawson•31 months

jm_1776 I don't disagree. My point is that without O we don't win the title in 2019. He was intricate in putting those pieces together, including Burrow, to make it happen. He may suck at the moment, but I wouldn't trade the 2019 season in exchange for LSU to go 11-2 or 12-1 every year with "the right hire". We been hearing about the "right hire" since Saban left.

Choupiqueboy•31 months

Orgeron is not, now ir ever, qualified to lead a Power 5 Program. AND....his damage is not done!!!

Big Gorilla•31 months

Hate to see a coach get fired half way through the season, but a loss in Kentucky might do it.

BooBooMeister•31 months

Why not throw out all the losses (insert reason here) and Coach O is 40-0, or whatever.

SaintLSU•31 months

Facts

southsidedell•31 months

You mean that thing that does not care about their feelings?

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