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re: FIFA allows Belgian FA to appeal Balogun’s suspended suspension
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:03 am to MetArl15
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:03 am to MetArl15
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If it was a bad call after an improper review, the remedy is to get rid of the red card and sentence to time served with the 30 minutes of 10 man soccer.
That SHOULD be the way it’s handled…
Unfortunately, FIFA’s stupid and doesn’t have that ability / an appeals process in its code, so Article 27 (which by allows a suspension of the penalty) is the only remedy.
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:05 am to bbap
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not what you said. you said they suspended the sentence TO favor the host country. you have no proof of this. maybe they just made the right decision BECAUSE it was the right decision.
You can’t possibly believe this.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:06 am to ohiovol
I believe both scenarios are a possibility because they flat out are, but know that neither are provable.
There is precedent in this world cup for the article they invoked, and none of them had anything to do with America or Trump.
There is precedent in this world cup for the article they invoked, and none of them had anything to do with America or Trump.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:08 am to bbap
quote:I cannot prove it, you’re correct.
maybe they just made the right decision BECAUSE it was the right decision.
Remove like or dislike of Trump, soccer, whatever else. What is your honest opinion of whether Trump’s call had an impact here? Do they overturn it without such call?
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:09 am to MetArl15
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What is your honest opinion of whether Trump’s call had an impact here? Do they overturn it without such call?
I think its a pretty good chance they would, consider the complete lack of protocols followed and the fact that they have done it for other countries in this same world cup. I obviously cannot say with 100% certainty though.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:11 am to MetArl15
Article after article regarding Trump and FiFA, and UEFA making statements about how it’s unfair.
“We want back our old corrupt FIFA, when Trump wasn’t involved!”
“We want back our old corrupt FIFA, when Trump wasn’t involved!”
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:18 am to Epic Cajun
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How does Belgium get to appeal something that has no bearing on them? They weren’t involved in the match where the red card occurred. This is absurd
That was my thought as well. They get to appeal because they prefer us not be able to play a certain player?
We are seeing the breakdown that make the “laws” of the game seem ridiculous. We got the ball microchipped and using virtual imaging to see if your toe is on the line when the ball is touched…but we also use it to create penalties. Penalties that may or may not be enforced. And if you don’t like the enforcement, you can protest for the right to an appeal, which may not reverse the decision but could result in a totally new decision.
This isn’t a matter of Americans complaining about thing they aren’t familiar with, the lack of consistency is just ridiculous.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:18 am to bbap
The last and only time this happened within the World Cup, not cards prior to the World Cup not carrying over but eliminating cards within the World Cup itself, was 1962.
In such case, automatic red card suspension did not yet exist. Also:
FIFA has been corrupt forever. Glad we are benefiting from it now, but don’t claim this doesn’t seem like another example of it.
In such case, automatic red card suspension did not yet exist. Also:
quote:Sounds familiar.
How Garrincha came to play in the final of the 1962 World Cup is the stuff of myth. It may or may not involve one presidential petition, another presidential phone call, a bribe and a witness who fled the country. We only know two things for certain: Garrincha was shown a red in Brazil's semifinal win over Chile and he went on to play in Brazil's 3-1 final win over Czechoslovakia.
FIFA has been corrupt forever. Glad we are benefiting from it now, but don’t claim this doesn’t seem like another example of it.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:20 am to MetArl15
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The last and only time this happened within the World Cup
was this world cup, there is zero difference that the offending game happened prior to the WC as long as the punishment would have taken place in this world cup.
That's just an awful semantics argument.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:28 am to Big4SALTbro
Hope we dominate these pussies tonight. Whiny little hoes
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:28 am to bbap
We won’t agree on this, which is fine.
Hopefully we can agree that no matter what, let’s thrash Belgium and keep winning.
Hopefully we can agree that no matter what, let’s thrash Belgium and keep winning.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:31 am to TideCPA
Maybe the US should review some Belgian visas and fifa visas...
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:37 am to TideCPA
If FIFA officials hadn’t broken their own protocols, this wouldn’t even be a discussion.
Maybe FIFA should openly state that… But who are we kidding? FIFA protects its own public image before that of the game itself.
Either way…
frick Belgium, and anyone else who has a problem with it. It’s hilarious that other nations are worried about this American team.
Maybe FIFA should openly state that… But who are we kidding? FIFA protects its own public image before that of the game itself.
Either way…
frick Belgium, and anyone else who has a problem with it. It’s hilarious that other nations are worried about this American team.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:39 am to MetArl15
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They suspended the sentence to favor the host country after a call from the president. It is FIFA 101 corruption and it stinks.
god it must suck having this level of TDS. You're not doing soccer any favors with a femboy low T post like this. Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:46 am to The Pirate King
quote:Imagine speaking like every other poster on the political board and not being able to have an independent thought. This is tripe.
god it must suck having this level of TDS. You're not doing soccer any favors with a femboy low T post like this.
I don’t care that it was Trump who did it. I actually appreciate how invested he is in making this World Cup a success. But this intervention would stink to high hell if it was anyone in the Oval Office.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:52 am to MetArl15
In hindsight Trump itself should not have gotten involved. That’s what everyone is latching onto.
If the US had just submitted a bunch of documentation and said “hey you guys let Ronaldo off the hook with this Art 27 thing” then I don’t think there’s near the uproar.
But it’s wild to me the number of people who will defend to the death the importance of serving a suspension for a bad call. Especially a VAR bad call.
“It’s unprecedented for FIFA to overturn a red card!!!!!” Well it was unprecedented to overturn a call on the field by VAR and give a red card until recently. Things change.
If the US had just submitted a bunch of documentation and said “hey you guys let Ronaldo off the hook with this Art 27 thing” then I don’t think there’s near the uproar.
But it’s wild to me the number of people who will defend to the death the importance of serving a suspension for a bad call. Especially a VAR bad call.
“It’s unprecedented for FIFA to overturn a red card!!!!!” Well it was unprecedented to overturn a call on the field by VAR and give a red card until recently. Things change.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:57 am to MetArl15
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intervention
Why do you keep espousing this made up scenario that somehow Trump coerced Infantino into doing something?
That's not even close to reality. It seems like you're more worried about the perception and what other countries think, which is serious low-T behavior. Get over it and man up.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:58 am to The Pirate King
Liberal minds parrot liberal media, and ESPN/sports media in general are liberal as all hell.
frick them.
frick them.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:04 am to TideCPA
Belgiums latest statement. It's definitely framed a lot better and gives some context. They basically want what we all do, for FIFA to just come out and detail what happened. But transparency isn't something FIFA even knows exists.
quote:
"Following its previous statement, the RBFA wishes to publicly explain the events of the past few hours.
"After learning through media reports of FIFA's decision to lift the automatic suspension of player Balogun, the RBFA sent a letter to FIFA requesting a copy of the decision, an explanation of the process that had been followed, and setting out its position regarding the applicable regulations.
"As its only response, FIFA sent a letter to the RBFA stating that it considered this correspondence to constitute an appeal, that a judge had been appointed, and that the RBFA had only a few hours to complete that appeal. No information whatsoever was provided by FIFA.
"For an appeal to be admissible, FIFA's own regulations state that the reasoned decision must first have been communicated to the appellant. While the RBFA was merely seeking legitimate explanations, FIFA itself created an appeal and immediately ensured that it would be declared inadmissible.
"All of this occurred while FIFA simultaneously refused to respond to the RBFA's legitimate requests.
"Furthermore, during the match coordination meeting, FIFA deliberately removed the section concerning the automatic suspension of players from its presentation. This topic had nonetheless been part of all such meetings before each of the previous four matches. The RBFA questioned FIFA, both orally and in writing, about the reasons for this change, yet once again received no response.
"To be clear, as of this moment, the RBFA has still not received any decision or any explanation from FIFA regarding this matter. It therefore has no alternative but to challenge the player's eligibility for the upcoming match.
"Regardless of the sporting outcome of this match, the RBFA is deeply concerned by the course of events and will continue to fight in the coming hours, days and months in defence of the fundamental principles of ethics, fair competition, and the interests of football as a whole."
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