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re: Belgium with some salty tears

Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:41 am to
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Europe is probably still the most elitist and class-rigid continent in the world too. That certainly drives as well.


They don’t understand how we had the audacity to question FIFA on that bullshite suspension. They question decisions of authority over there and they end up in prison, so it checks out I guess.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:55 am to
The United States once lawyers become involved... Not a game the Belgians want to play. We were born for this.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 8:59 am to
I saw posts on here about the Reddit melts and I went to r/soccer and the thread about the UEFA response reads like the Declaration of Independence or the Speech from Independence Day was just communicated to the world.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:00 am to
r/soccer is good for highlights, and that's it.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24863 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:00 am to
The views on Reddit are almost as bad as trying to read their format vs the format here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:03 am to
If we win tonight and then pull off the upset in the next round, it's going to be good for a lot more than that

The idea of the threat of the United States winning the World Cup is something the European mind cannot comprehend. It's like open carry of semi-automatic rifles in Walmart while you walk around eating the cup of chicken bites after traveling there on roads that literally threaten pedestrians....all in AC
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:05 am to
No doubt. We're probably not to that stage yet but just the mere idea of it possibly happening at some point in the future has them freaking the frick out.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
39282 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:08 am to
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The idea of the threat of the United States winning the World Cup is something the European mind cannot comprehend. It's like open carry of semi-automatic rifles in Walmart while you walk around eating the cup of chicken bites after traveling there on roads that literally threaten pedestrians....all in AC



There's no doubt if we win tonight we're getting a Cuban, Iranian, and a Russian set of refs against whatever Iberian country we play
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24863 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:09 am to
Yea probably not to that stage just yet but we are kicking at the door.

If we had a competent us soccer federation I’d say we kick it down in the next two world cups. I don’t trust us soccer to not frick it up. However as our youth development improves and more of our best guys end up in the EPL at some point we will kick that down.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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479978 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:10 am to
It's inevitable. Each generation we do get better and produce better talent with a lot more depth at the top tier. These guys go to Europe early and develop just like anyone else.

It's really the dividends of the work of Klinsman and Beckham on our youth setup. That is improving with each generation too. I know we have problems with pay for play select soccer, but even with that, we have such a huge population of average to elite athletes in a huge sports culture that we can make up for these inefficiencies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479978 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:11 am to
If they really want to screw us they'll send a CONCACAF ref. That's the only reason. Who would hate the idea of us winning a World Cup more than Europe?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24863 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:13 am to
Imagine if we didn’t have the typical American sports pay for play that we still have creeping in.

Jurgen did a lot of great work on the youth system.

I do recall seeing something about some of the mls academies being good about not being all pay for play in player development
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
12114 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:16 am to
Yeah Jurgen didn't get the results we are hoped for, but he dragged our youth setup into the modern century which is paying massive dividends
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32989 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:27 am to
Red cards weren’t overturned by phone calls from politicians.
Red calls were overturned by depositing millions of dollars into Sepp Blatter’s bank account.

Rvtrn to tradition!
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
82528 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:28 am to
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but he dragged our youth setup into the modern century which is paying massive dividends


Jurgen pedaling this narrative has been hilarious, considering the youth academies were already in motion before Jurgen came in.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:31 am to
I see it written all the time but it seems very hard to prove that this happened bc of anything Jurgen actually did.

He said a lot of trite comments that everyone would agree with but I’m not sure he actually did anything tangible.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15468 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:32 am to
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If we win tonight and then pull off the upset in the next round, it's going to be good for a lot more than that

The idea of the threat of the United States winning the World Cup is something the European mind cannot comprehend. It's like open carry of semi-automatic rifles in Walmart while you walk around eating the cup of chicken bites after traveling there on roads that literally threaten pedestrians....all in AC


Oh man the European melt and anti-American hate would be at all time levels if this happened.

Id love it
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97218 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:32 am to
I think it's pretty funny Belgian fans have already forgotten about the fact that Tielemans straight up shoved the senegalese defender in the back on the game tying goal. and for some reason VAR didn't intervene.

Proper VAR usage and they're not even playing tonight.

eta: maybe it wasn't Tielemans on the second goal, can't remember exactly but point remains.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 9:34 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
82528 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:37 am to
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He said a lot of trite comments that everyone would agree with but I’m not sure he actually did anything tangible.



The biggest thing Jurgen did to the USMNT was rot the "better than the sum of your parts" culture that we had been known for, for so long, which ultimately led to one of the most embarrassing moments in our history (not qualifying for 2018).

Go listen to every former player from that era, they keep saying how toxic the culture was immediately after the 2014 World Cup.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4450 posts
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:40 am to
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If people want to argue with the "rules" on paper about retroactively overturning a call like that, fine


It's funny to me that all the same people saying "intent doesn't matter you have to go by the written rule" are now saying "well no not those rules."

And saying intent doesn't matter already feels like a stretch, the rules have plenty of classic lawyer, intentionally vague wording such as "intensity if the foul" & "IF the official determines" etc.
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