re: Belgium with some salty tears ETA UEFA in on the crying too now

I wanted Tua.

I didnt want bama to have any excuse

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TD had a half day melt when it was announced Tua would play through his injury the day before the 2019 LSU/Bama game.

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And I was probably downvoting all the whiners just like most the rest of us.


Unrelated, in retrospect given his subsequent history it prob wasn’t the right decision

We were the favorites without Flo, now we just bury those insufferable bitches. What kind of nerve their bitch made coach has. frick them and everyone else whining about this.

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Broski

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You literally hate everything America

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Literally everyone outside of the US thinks it's outrageous and that FIFA has twisted themselves inside out to please the US and inevitably their financial backers.

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That's the problem. Trump is totalitarian in that he likes to insert himself into all things and make him a part of it. Aside from economic and more widely cultural, he is even inserting himself into sport. FIFA is not the only place he is doing it, he's also done it in college football earlier this Spring.

I don't like politicians involved in sports. It's bad enough that FIFA likes to get bribes from countries like Qatar and SA that are corrupt to get the event. Now we have a politicians " suggesting" things to the head of the organization as to how to enforce their rules. Really for a PR win. It's not his place.

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Yeah that’s the biggest disconnect to me. You aren’t complaining that you earned or deserved some sort of foul or advantage in the game based on your play. Most people agree that the red card was an incorrect call. Certainly the procedure used was incorrect. And yet Belgium and the rest of the euros are mad that we aren’t being doubly punished for what everyone admits is a bad call. Again as far as actual on the field calls go the U.S. has objectively gotten the short end of the straw so far compared to the Euro teams. It’s like I’m taking crazy pills trying to understand their logic. It’s just anti-US soccer gatekeeping.

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I almost fully agree with your post. When the US is on the side of a very bad call that hurts them, the attitude is “damn, that sucks bro. Let me buy you a round.” When the US is on the side of that call that benefits them in this context, it is an unprecedented travesty.

No one thinks this was an actual red card so the only argument is that a red card has never been overturned before within the tournament. This is such a goofy argument to me. If a bad call is made, it shouldn’t be overturned because of what, tradition?

I’m sure those lovers of tradition mourn the loss of wins being two points or goalkeepers being able to pick up back passes.

There are also elements of gate-keeping because hard-working losers or apathetic losers are far preferable to dangerous upstarts. There is also an international political angle at play. The furor would be less (but still present) if Obama had been the person involved instead of Trump, for example.

The only thing I disagree with you on. is that if this happened to a Euro power (or Argentina or Brazil), there wouldn’t be online furor. Or an apoplectic reaction from their opponent who thought they were getting a huge break.

Especially if it happened in the same context, i.e. a bad red
card on Vini Jr is overturned in a World Cup hosted in Brazil where a globally unpopular leader such as Jair Bolsanaro has cozied up to the FIFA president, won a dubious award, and then there are reports that Bolsanaro told the President to overturn the card.

I think a lot of the discontent runs into almost a subconscious for the globe: The US dominates in almost anything it participates in….except soccer. I think there is real fear / concern from the traditional powerhouses of the US breaking through in the sport. Things not going the way of the US is mildly satisfying for fanbases that despise the US achieving in a sport that has never before been their love and passion like it is for the rest of the world.

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Literally everyone outside of the US thinks it's outrageous and that FIFA has twisted themselves inside out to please the US and inevitably their financial backers.

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Literally, this isn't true. The most vocal euro voice on the World Cup and former UEFA player (Zlatan) said it's right

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I think a lot of the discontent runs into almost a subconscious for the globe

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American soccer has long been the butt of the jokes in european circles, and now that's being threatened. MLS players have played really well in this cup, Mexico, Canada, and the US all through to the Round of 16, and of course the US playing really well and still going.

Europe is probably still the most elitist and class-rigid continent in the world too. That certainly drives as well.