re: “You can’t lie to the American people about affordability”

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Not one soul asked. Maybe you should have thought of that before now.

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Income is implied when you claimed to have paid for it all yourself working a job.

Goodnight, Roger.

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You are either not making 250k a year or you have a spending problem. Either way, if you cannot afford to buy a home, that is a YOU problem.

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We could certainly do it but right now we save 30% for retirement/savings acounts and are looking to get married and have kids soon. A $4500-5000 monthly payment along with $1800 per month for child care is very daunting even with a good income

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Y;all need to step outside the bubble once in a while.

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by RogerTheShrubber

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Wrong. Unless you are at your job 18 hours a day, anyone has time to save money on fixing stuff so you can save or be in a starter home. But you can chose to pay the man. That is an option but don’t bitch about money then.

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Please pay attention. We aren’t talking about “saving money on fixing stuff.” We’re discussing single-handedly purchasing property and building a whole arse house while attending college full-time and paying for all of that (plus food, transportation, utilities, etc.) and every other living expense with a non-degreed job. And finishing it at 20. Roger has made this claim for years ( until tonight ).

Constantly deflecting to “you pussies are too lazy to lay your own foundation” is both irrelevant and an obvious deflection to anyone smarter than Roger, which includes most of humanity and probably you.

You yourself just inadvertently refuted his claim with “Unless you are at your job 18 hours a day.” According to Roger (until a little while ago) he wasn’t just holding a job at 20 that paid for property, construction of a house, and full-time college; he was also building that house by himself, attending classes, completing studies outside of class, and working the hours to pay for it all by himself. I’m going to assume he slept at some point.

How many hours a day would that take?

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We could certainly do it but right now we save 30% for retirement/savings acounts

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Dude you live in fantasy land. Complain about the cost of housing but put away 30% for retirement? You can’t have it all unless you have outlier income which you do not have. If you want the house, cut back on retirement savings. 30% is very aggressive. If you want to retire early, live in a smaller house.

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Hourly wage you earned: $10 plus bonuses. Wife made $12

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In 2025 dollars you made $30.19 an hour BEFORE bonuses (as a 20 year old without a degree ) and your wife made $37 fricking dollars an hour. That's well over double what your tour bus driving gig pays today. And when called on it and asked for the math breakdown, even at $30 an hour, you still realized you needed to add a second earner making even more than that to get your claim anywhere near possible.

So, turns out, the struggling young couple with no degrees in Shreveport Louisiana were apparently clearing around 140k a year in 2025 dollars according to you. BEFORE bonuses.

For reference your 2025 counterpart averages $35k year.

Not exactly the "picking yourself up by the bootstraps" story you've been selling and you definitely aren't the rugged gritty success you imagine yourself as.

You're an average (at best) byproduct of the single most prosperous period in American history. Just take the win and stop trying to convince us that a fat frick with 300,000 message board posts outworked the rest of humanity.

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LSU class load and major
LSU-S, night classes. 9-12 hours

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Average in-state full-time tuition and fees in 1985 adjusted for inflation: $3,200
Average in-state full-time tuition and fees in 2025 $13,800

Good lord. It's worse than I thought. You're either even more full of shite than I imagined or you're the goddamned epitome of being born on third base and thinking you hit a triple.

If you had any self-awareness or children you loved you'd be ashamed to open your mediocre fricking mouth on this topic.


Is this your real photo in the meme?

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Is that true?

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If that were true, we wouldn't be rolling back tarrifs on coffee and bananas

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Give me the 50s. ..... house and 2 cars on a minimum of 10 acres

In the 50s you could do this with an average hometown business

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You guys have lost your damn minds. You have a fairytale view of the 50's ..... where Grace Kelly lookalikes rode everywhere in shiny sportscar convertibles, with never a blown strand of their hair out of place.

When it's pointed out that homes at that time lacked a/c, some airhead pops off ... "Air-conditioning was invented in 1902, so ... duh ... they sure must've had it in 1950."

I feel like I'm talking to Joy, Sonny, and Whoopi on The View.
The level of mental density inherent in a post like the 1902 a/c posit is only matched by the laziness of not looking up the damn facts about it for one's self.


Regarding the 2 cars, 10 acre house BS, here are the inconvenient truths.
In 1950:

• Only ~60% of households owned a car at all. 40% made do without. <15% owned more than one car.

• The median home was ~1000sq ft, and cost $10,900. That is $10.9/SqFt which equates to $136 in today's dollars. (Median PPSF today is $168)

• < 1% of homes had air conditioning.

• < 10% had TV. Almost all had radio.

So no, there is no way in hell an average 20 or 30-something would want to actually swap lives with a 20 or 30-something from the 1950's. Not a chance.

To be clear though, truth about 1950's life is separate and distinct from any claims about folks having it easy now, or that things are perfect, or life is universally affordable.

A $500,000 starter home? Give me a break. I now live in a $450,000-$500,000 home, 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath. It’s not a starter home. It’s a house for a couple with 3-4 kids. Many homes in our area are in the $200,000-$300,000 range. Certainly your friends can afford those starter homes.

It is bs. Biden made that shite sky rocket. Is it down some, yes. Outside of beef and coffee. Everything else where i live is down. Anyone that says shite is not significantly lower than it was under Biden is full of shite.