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re: “You can’t lie to the American people about affordability”
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:07 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:07 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:This is about cost/time ratio, not effort.
I agree. Building a house really isn’t that hard. Much easier nowadays too with the internet. Hell I learned all about how the average home heating system works and then troubleshooted and fixed my mom’s gas fired heating system within 24 hours. I pretty much didn’t know jack shite before hand. I knew AC because we usually run into AC issues in S Louisiana but not heating.
My AC went out in my car. Didn’t know much. After a few nights of researching on YouTube in how to troubleshoot, fix, and recharge the system, I fixed it. AutoZone loaner tools.
People today are soft. Don’t want to put in the effort and just want someone else to do everything. Well either learn and do it yourself or pay the man. That’s your choices.
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:08 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
Excellent. That means you can actually math that for us and show us what it looks like. A man with your drive, gumption, and dedication to message board posting wouldn't take the cop-out route and tell me to figure it out myself.
What do you want to know since youre either illiterate or too lazy to do it yourself?
I'll be glad to help you out. Dont say I never did you any favors.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:10 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
This is about cost/time ratio, not effort.
Wrong. Unless you are at your job 18 hours a day, anyone has time to save money on fixing stuff so you can save or be in a starter home. But you can chose to pay the man. That is an option but don’t bitch about money then.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:11 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
You'd really claim you'd want to swap places with THAT?
Yes
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:13 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:
I agree. Building a house really isn’t that hard. Much easier nowadays too with the internet. Hell I learned all about how the average home heating system works and then troubleshooted and fixed my mom’s gas fired heating system within 24 hours. I pretty much didn’t know jack shite before hand. I knew AC because we usually run into AC issues in S Louisiana but not heating. People today are soft. Don’t want to put in the effort and just want someone else to do everything. Well either learn and do it yourself or pay the man. That’s your choices.
I built my home. I did everything other than finishing the concrete and sheet rock. I framed it and did all of the plumbing and electrical. I also designed it. I am of the age that I would not try to do it again though. I also built my 2 barns. Have a 48x30 barn with half of it being a shop to do wood work as I enjoy it. Have a 48x40 to park my 5th wheel camper and a couple boats under. I like building but age is going to make that a part of my past. Young frickers can have it.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:16 pm to Warboo
quote:
I built my home. I did everything other than finishing the concrete and sheet rock.
I had a guy do site work, dig an oxidation pond, another drill the well, set the septtic system and some wiring (wasnt that confident)
I didnt finish all the trim until I sold it 11 years later.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:17 pm to Warboo
quote:
Young frickers can have it.
But they don’t want to do it. That’s the issue.
Good for you on building all that.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:17 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:
Yup. 1200 sqft was not lower middle class. 2500 was upper middle class. Very very few people had homes larger than 3000. 2500 is not a starter home. Anyone that is crying about wanting a 2500 starter home is unrealistic. It’s also unrealistic to have a starter home without putting in sweat equity to make it happen. You are NOT ENTITLED to a home without work and sacrifice. Even a starter home.
You are so out of touch it’s crazy. We make $250k a year combined and home ownership is still a stretch. We have done everything right and are getting screwed - that’s the whole point of this thread
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:18 pm to MC5601
quote:
You are so out of touch it’s crazy. We make $250k a year combined and home ownership is still a stretch
This was 50 years ago, Genius.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:20 pm to MC5601
quote:
You are so out of touch it’s crazy. We make $250k a year combined and home ownership is still a stretch. We have done everything right and are getting screwed
Let me see your finances, how you spend, and give me control over your paychecks. I’ll get you in a starter home. But you just keep crying. Maybe that will help. Most people have to sacrifice. I don’t think that’s in your vocabulary making 250K and bitching.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:20 pm to Warboo
quote:
I am of the age that I would not try to do it again though
My ex father in law was a computer tech, built a bigass home on 40 acres, a barn, a garage, and put in a swimming pool.
Dude didnt know shite about any of it before he started, and as far as I know is still building shite on his property.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
What do you want to know since youre either illiterate or too lazy to do it yourself?
I'll be glad to help you out. Dont say I never did you any favors.
Look at you already trying to pivot. I don't want to know how you tiled your bathroom. I need-
State/parish
Years this happened
Cost of the lot
Square footage of the house
Itemized materials estimate
Hourly wage you earned
Weekly work schedule
LSU class load and major
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I’m building a brick wall now. Don’t know shite about laying bricks. Gonna buy $20 worth of generic bricks and a simple bag of mortar and practice a bit. Already have been watching YouTube videos. Already did the footing myself. 28 50# bags of concrete with rebar. 3 trips to Lowes to haul it all. Yeah. Did the forms, mixed, and poured. All just me and I’m not even close to being a young buck. And I can easily pay for someone else to do it.
Younger people just do not want to put in effort. I see it over and over.
Younger people just do not want to put in effort. I see it over and over.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:32 pm to UptownJoeBrown
I’ve gotten several estimates on roof replacements that I can’t afford. So now, I’m watching youtube videos to teach myself how to do it myself. I still can’t afford the materials at the moment, but I have the time, so why not?
I’m also trying to figure out how to replace an exterior sliding door with french doors using a bunch of spare building materials.
I’m also trying to figure out how to replace an exterior sliding door with french doors using a bunch of spare building materials.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:40 pm to MC5601
quote:
You are so out of touch it’s crazy. We make $250k a year combined and home ownership is still a stretch. We have done everything right and are getting screwed - that’s the whole point of this thread
You are either not making 250k a year or you have a spending problem. Either way, if you cannot afford to buy a home, that is a YOU problem.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:40 pm to northshorebamaman
State/parish
Bossier/La
Years this happened
1881-1984
Cost of the lot
2,000
Square footage of the house
1300 (roughly)
Itemized materials estimate
Around 220 2x4s
60 or so sheets of plywood
Probably another 60 or so exterior sheeting
Have no idea how many 2x8s we got
Probably 50 bundles of shingles and felt paper
shite load of wiring
Wood stove
700' chain link fencing plus all the shite.
Siding
Lots of hardware.
misc other crap.
Probably 20k in total. its been 40 years.
Hourly wage you earned
10 plus bonuses. Wife made 12
Weekly work schedule
38-40
LSU class load and major
LSU-S, night classes. 9-12 hours.
40 years ago, so its the best I could come up with.
Took 3 day to get walls up once we started.
Bossier/La
Years this happened
1881-1984
Cost of the lot
2,000
Square footage of the house
1300 (roughly)
Itemized materials estimate
Around 220 2x4s
60 or so sheets of plywood
Probably another 60 or so exterior sheeting
Have no idea how many 2x8s we got
Probably 50 bundles of shingles and felt paper
shite load of wiring
Wood stove
700' chain link fencing plus all the shite.
Siding
Lots of hardware.
misc other crap.
Probably 20k in total. its been 40 years.
Hourly wage you earned
10 plus bonuses. Wife made 12
Weekly work schedule
38-40
LSU class load and major
LSU-S, night classes. 9-12 hours.
40 years ago, so its the best I could come up with.
Took 3 day to get walls up once we started.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Thanks, give me a little while to work up a comparison. I do see you've already added a second income even higher than your own and I also noticed the word 'we' in there. since you've always been adamant (to the point of insulting posters that question your claim), that second person won't factor into labor or income in my estimates. Although I will add them if you admit that you've constantly lied about doing it solo.
State/parish
Bossier/La
Years this happened
1881-1984
Cost of the lot
2,000
Square footage of the house
1300 (roughly)
Itemized materials estimate
Around 220 2x4s
60 or so sheets of plywood
Probably another 60 or so exterior sheeting
Have no idea how many 2x8s we got
Probably 50 bundles of shingles and felt paper
shite load of wiring
Wood stove
700' chain link fencing plus all the shite.
Siding
Lots of hardware.
misc other crap.
Probably 20k in total. its been 40 years.
Hourly wage you earned
10 plus bonuses. Wife made 12
Weekly work schedule
38-40
LSU class load and major
LSU-S, night classes. 9-12 hours.
40 years ago, so its the best I could come up with.
Took 3 day to get walls up once we started.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:54 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
I do see you've already added a second income
No I havent. I never was asked about income. We also live don the property for 18 months before moving in. Moved in the day the sheetrock was in and fixtures installed. Floated and taped/pained and carpeted after we moved in. Literally had no bills except a small electric bill.
You soft fricks are funny as hell. You act like building a house is a superpower..
' I also built the wellhouse, dog lots, and a small pier on our pond. I must be superman..
quote:
that second person won't factor into labor
You bitches will whine about anything you dont understand.
I absolutely had "help." My wife helped me, ex father in law helped me with the fence...best friend put in a little work.
Its impossible to build one without assistance on occasion. Particularly framing the foundation.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:How in the frick is income not a factor when determining if it's possible to attend school and build a house on your own income, dummy?
No I havent. I never was asked about income.
quote:Again, this isn't about your physical ability to do it. It's about fiscal ability. You and the other guy can attempt to pivot to that all you like but I'm going to steer you back to the dumb shite you actually said every time.
I also built the wellhouse, dog lots, and a small pier on our pond. I must be superman..
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:06 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
How in the frick is income not a factor when determining if it's possible to attend school and build a house on your own income, dummy?
Not one soul asked. Maybe you should have thought of that before now.
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