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Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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good job in proving the idea that some people just expect too much. Everyone lived in 1000-1500 sq ft homes 50 years ago, you know...the "golden Age" as considered by board Millennials. Many with 3-5 kids.
That would have been a typical lower middle class existence, absolutely. Those homes and neighborhoods no longer exist in metro areas.
What I am referring to is upper middle class neighborhoods with a good school district and 30 minute or less commute to work. Those neighborhoods in DFW cost $500k - $1mm. It is insanity
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:31 pm to MC5601
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commute under 30 minutes
Well then make it an 45 min or an hour. See? You have totally unrealistic expectations. You want to live in a big city 30 min from work in safe neighborhoods and schools. Yeah. Duh. That’s gonna cost you.
Life isn’t fair and you can’t always get what you want. You want it all which is fine. But you better work your arse off for it. You’re not entitled to anything.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:34 pm to MC5601
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That would have been a typical lower middle class existence
On my street lived the city engineer, the superintendent of schools... People were just less pretentious back in those days
You young folks believe way too much bullshite about the past.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:35 pm to NC_Tigah
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It certainly is not the home folks in their 40's-50's, at peak earnings, would be settling into.
Those are high-6, low-7 figure homes
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:36 pm to kingbob
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One can argue that Trump is not responsible for the affordability crisis, and that the Trump Administration is enacting the best policies within its power to combat the crisis. But, denying it exists is akin to denying the sunrise. It simply occurs whether you believe it to or not.
I agree.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:36 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Life isn’t fair and you can’t always get what you want. You want it all which is fine. But you better work your arse off for it. You’re not entitled to anything.
The thing is, even 10 years ago it was achievable. 20 years ago even more so.
It's just those on the right side of housing policy and variance act like that path is available today, when it's not.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:37 pm to NC_Tigah
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without air conditioning.
The air conditioner was invent in 1902. My grandparents and great grandparents had them in their houses before they even had a tv
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yup. 1200 sqft was not lower middle class. 2500 was upper middle class. Very very few people had homes larger than 3000.
2500 is not a starter home. Anyone that is crying about wanting a 2500 starter home is unrealistic. It’s also unrealistic to have a starter home without putting in sweat equity to make it happen.
You are NOT ENTITLED to a home without work and sacrifice. Even a starter home.
2500 is not a starter home. Anyone that is crying about wanting a 2500 starter home is unrealistic. It’s also unrealistic to have a starter home without putting in sweat equity to make it happen.
You are NOT ENTITLED to a home without work and sacrifice. Even a starter home.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:40 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Yup. 1200 sqft was not lower middle class. 2500 was upper middle class. Very very few people had homes larger than 3000.
In my town there were hardly any large homes. A two story home was considered a luxury, and 2000 sq feet was a mansion.
Its changed quite a bit since then.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's just those on the right side of housing policy and variance act like that path is available today, when it's not.
You act as if it is just the “right side”. California is the poster child for manipulation on housing prices while being of “left side” policies.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:43 pm to Warboo
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You act as if it is just the “right side”. California is the poster child for manipulation on housing prices while being of “left side” policies.
Is this a serious post or are you making a dad joke?
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:47 pm to Warboo
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You act as if it is just the “right side”. California is the poster child for manipulation on housing prices while being of “left side” policies.
I refuse to believe this post is real.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Well, you did tell them you built a house in your spare time while attending class and working full-time to pay for college and the house all by yourself at age twenty.
You young folks believe way too much bullshite about the past.
Assuming it's true (
) do you think a 20 year old can do that today?Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:54 pm to MC5601
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My girlfriend and I make around $250k combined
You are doing something wrong. Take a good hard look at the cars you drive, vacations, eating out, clothes, cable, entertainment, hobbies, etc.
And don’t buy a house with a girlfriend. That’s a dumb move. If you’re OK buying a house together, then you shouldn’t have a doubt you want to get married. But that’s really not the issue at hand.
250K gross and have to stretch? Yeah. You don’t want to sacrifice or lower expectations. That’s a you problem. You make that much because you live in a big city and the expenses are higher. You think 250K should get you what you could get in rural areas. Again, your expectations are out of wack.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:57 pm to northshorebamaman
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Well, you did tell them you built a house in your spare time while attending class and working full-time
Correct. sold it and lived on it for two years when I moved to Alaska. Its carpentry. Men can do that (you excluded of course)
My youngest daughter and her husband did the same. As did my ex father in law. Thats who I got the books and skills from.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I agree. Building a house really isn’t that hard. Much easier nowadays too with the internet. Hell I learned all about how the average home heating system works and then troubleshooted and fixed my mom’s gas fired heating system within 24 hours. I pretty much didn’t know jack shite before hand. I knew AC because we usually run into AC issues in S Louisiana but not heating.
My AC went out in my car. Didn’t know much other than home AC. After a few nights of researching on YouTube in how to troubleshoot, fix, and recharge the system, I fixed it. AutoZone loaner tools.
People today are soft. Don’t want to put in the effort and just want someone else to do everything. Well either learn and do it yourself or pay the man. That’s your choices.
My AC went out in my car. Didn’t know much other than home AC. After a few nights of researching on YouTube in how to troubleshoot, fix, and recharge the system, I fixed it. AutoZone loaner tools.
People today are soft. Don’t want to put in the effort and just want someone else to do everything. Well either learn and do it yourself or pay the man. That’s your choices.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Is this a serious post or are you making a dad joke?
Sarcasm. Should have noted that at the bottom.
Sarcasm. Should have noted that at the bottom.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:04 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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I agree. Building a house really isn’t that hard.
Carpentry is pretty easy, and dont pay well unless youre a finish carpenter. I was a draftsman/estimator, so blueprints were easy.
I paid for the basic wiring but did run my own 220v. Learned a lot, one lesson is not to dig an 18" deep trench to the waterwell with post hole diggers. Took longer than shingling the house.
It was a basic rectangular, ranch style wooden house but I felt pretty good that I did most of the work.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Excellent. That means you can actually math that for us and show us what it looks like. A man with your drive, gumption, and dedication to message board posting wouldn't take the cop-out route and tell me to figure it out myself.
Correct. sold it and lived on it for two years when I moved to Alaska. Its carpentry. Men can do that (you excluded of course)
My youngest daughter and her husband did the same. As did my ex father in law. Thats who I got the books and skills from.
But if he did I'd be happy to show you my numbers to accomplish all those tasks by 20. You attended LSU in the early/mid 80's or so?
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