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re: WTF is the Supreme Court thinking?? This stinks of manipulation.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:45 pm to geauxkoo
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:45 pm to geauxkoo
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Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
One of these is NOT like the other. The 2nd amendment is an enumerated right.
Half this country is dumb as shite when it comes to the constitution. Maybe we should start implementing a constitutional course as mandatory since our schools have failed completely.
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:46 pm to geauxkoo
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Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
Uhhh... No, no its not the same..
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:48 pm to geauxkoo
Tou sir, are retarded.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:52 pm to geauxkoo
quote:
Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
You people are retarded
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:53 pm to geauxkoo
Dude these fricking idiots on this board don’t get any of that.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:06 pm to geauxkoo
Leave sarcasm to the professionals.
Don't try this at home.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:10 pm to AggieHank86
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That is the Declaration. It is not a governing document. Its soaring rhetoric is aspirational, but it does not create rights any more than a press release would do so.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
What’s bolded above would be a far less tortured and manufactured right to life than the right to kill found in the Roe decision.
Kind of impossible to secure the blessings of liberty for our posterity when we are killing them.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:16 pm to AggieHank86
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AggieHank86
quote:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America
Ooops.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:20 pm to geauxkoo
RVW was implemented in a shady way. Courts can't manufacture rights.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:24 pm to geauxkoo
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Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
There is so much FAIL in this statement, that honestly it's too hilarious to even justify a rational verbal response.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:33 pm to geauxkoo
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Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
The fact you compare the two tells me all I need to know. And just so you know…..it will be up to the States to decide if they allow abortions.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:36 pm to geauxkoo
One is a constitutional right ( the 2nd ) the other, abortion is not.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:04 pm to geauxkoo
akin to overturning the 2nd amendment
Hardly. The second amendment is explicitly stated in the Constitution. Abortion is not an enumerated right. It therefore must be decided by the states.
Hardly. The second amendment is explicitly stated in the Constitution. Abortion is not an enumerated right. It therefore must be decided by the states.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:33 pm to geauxkoo
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Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
that shot didn't even break paper.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:49 am to dbbuilder79
It is simply not productive to engage in substantive political discussion with someone who takes a direct quote from the Declaration of Independence and insists that it comes from the preamble to the Constitution.
You said:
So, are you utterly disingenuous, or are you simply illiterate? Be an adult. You were objectively wrong. Just own it and move on.
You said:
quote:Here is the language from the Declation:
the constitution DOES state we have the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
quote:When shown the error, you hide behind a completely unrelated passage from the Preamble about the “blessings of liberty.”
In Congress, July 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, … We hold these truths to be self-evident, … that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
So, are you utterly disingenuous, or are you simply illiterate? Be an adult. You were objectively wrong. Just own it and move on.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:51 am to geauxkoo
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Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
Holy shite. The internet is forever and you actually posted this
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:52 am to troyt37
quote:No, both interpretations are equally “tortured.” Roe was jurisprudential nonsense, and so is your argument.
What’s bolded above would be a far less tortured and manufactured right to life than the right to kill found in the Roe decision.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:58 am to geauxkoo
quote:Not really.
Just willy-nilly overturning Roe-vs-Wade would be akin to overturning the 2nd ammendment.
One is an Amendment to the Constitution. The text objectively exists, even if there also exist good faith arguments about their implementation.
The other is a subjective interpretation of the manner in which various Constitutional provisions interact. Such interpretations can always change, even if stare decisis says that this sort of flip should be rare.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 3:18 am
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:18 am to geauxkoo
there's NO right to an abortion
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:52 am to geauxkoo
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What is happening that would benefit from this type distraction?
In the short term, a diversion from the mess we are in economically. Longer term, a bunch of lefties have begun to turn or, at minimum, become apathetic due to the shitshow that is their party. What could they possibly do to rile up the democrats into a frenzy and get them pissed off at conservatives as we head into an election? What kind of controversial topic might achieve that?
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