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re: Would you support a $2000 tax credit per person for being "physically fit"?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:11 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:11 am to Robin Masters
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I support any lowering of taxes but is 33% bf for a 40 yo man really “fit”?
No...your eyes are misaligned. That's for women.
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According to the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, there are healthy body fat percentages based on your age. For people aged 20 to 39, women should aim for 21% to 32% of body fat. Men should have 8% to 19%. For people 40 to 59, women should fall between 23% to 33% and men should fall around 11% to 21%. If you’re aged 60 to 79, women should have 24% to 35% body fat and men should have 13% to 24%.
Looks like this data matches what the OP is saying
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:12 am to GumboPot
1. Yes to any reason for tax cut
2. We shouldn't have to be discussing this b/c the government already taxes us ALL at criminal rates and spend our money lining their own pockets by selling to foreign influence.
3. The constitution allows us to legally remove our government if they're tyrannical.
Let's spell out tyranny to everyone for a long, long time until they get it.
WHY DO WE KEEP RE-ELECTING THE SAME PEOPLE?!
2. We shouldn't have to be discussing this b/c the government already taxes us ALL at criminal rates and spend our money lining their own pockets by selling to foreign influence.
3. The constitution allows us to legally remove our government if they're tyrannical.
Let's spell out tyranny to everyone for a long, long time until they get it.
WHY DO WE KEEP RE-ELECTING THE SAME PEOPLE?!
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:12 am to The Maj
The most obese and unfit people I see at my local grocery store usually are using EBT for their purchases.
I certainly would agree with changing what people can buy with their cars. Nothing boxed (full of junk and preservatives). Only allow things since as meats, dairy, fruits and vegetables.
I certainly would agree with changing what people can buy with their cars. Nothing boxed (full of junk and preservatives). Only allow things since as meats, dairy, fruits and vegetables.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:14 am to alphaandomega
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I certainly would agree with changing what people can buy with their cars. Nothing boxed (full of junk and preservatives). Only allow things since as meats, dairy, fruits and vegetables.
They need the ability to buy some non perishable items though
What you're suggesting is too limiting
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:15 am to alphaandomega
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The most obese and unfit people I see at my local grocery store usually are using EBT for their purchases.
True. And when I look at their carts full of chips they don't realize those chips cost more per ounce than meat.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:16 am to GumboPot
While I agree with your premise, the % for this age group is a bit much:
40 to 59, men, 11% to 21% body fat.
Do you really know what it takes to get 11% body fat over 40?
40 to 59, men, 11% to 21% body fat.
Do you really know what it takes to get 11% body fat over 40?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:17 am to back9Tiger
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While I agree with your premise, the % for this age group is a bit much:
40 to 59, men, 11% to 21% body fat.
Do you really know what it takes to get 11% body fat over 40?
That's why the range goes up to 21%
What seems to be confusing you?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:21 am to Powerman
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Plenty of druggies and alcoholics would qualify under your criteria and they aren't healthy by any stretch of the imagination
I'd add some sort of drug testing requirement or bloodwork
Who will pay for bloodwork and testing?
This has already become a boondoggle.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:37 am to umrebel2009
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Those poor obese need the most help so they get $2000 and the better shape you're in the less you get.
That falls under the new 'equity' rule. Kamala can explain why.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:43 am to whiskey over ice
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No but I’d take a $2000 reduction of my insurance premiums
This and the fact that you pay the same if you have one child or 10 children is ridiculous. If you want 10 kids, great, you should pay a higher premium for each kid you have. But that’s another topic. Sorry for venting.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:45 am to GumboPot
It's not an awful idea but it's not great either. Both sides of the aisle aren't going to go for this.
Conservatives- Government trying to insert themselves in my life again.
Leftists- This discriminates against x, y, z, etc., Fat shaming, and the classic white people who make more than 30k a year shouldn't get any tax credits.
Plus this is a slippery slope of the government telling you what to consume through food, media, and anything else you use.
This also comes off as trying to get our populace ready for war. Then add to the fact we haven't fought a legitimate war since WW2. frick them trying to send us to fight someone else's war.
Plenty of healthy people have less than 8% body fat as well. No reason to punish them for being under the ranges you set. They're either genetically that way, can't afford to eat more so they need the tax break anyway, or are on meth probably not filing taxes anyway.
Conservatives- Government trying to insert themselves in my life again.
Leftists- This discriminates against x, y, z, etc., Fat shaming, and the classic white people who make more than 30k a year shouldn't get any tax credits.
Plus this is a slippery slope of the government telling you what to consume through food, media, and anything else you use.
This also comes off as trying to get our populace ready for war. Then add to the fact we haven't fought a legitimate war since WW2. frick them trying to send us to fight someone else's war.
Plenty of healthy people have less than 8% body fat as well. No reason to punish them for being under the ranges you set. They're either genetically that way, can't afford to eat more so they need the tax break anyway, or are on meth probably not filing taxes anyway.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:29 am to LSUAlum2001
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How about cheaper medical insurance premiums for those who choose to lead a healthier lifestyle?
This is the solution, not a tax incentive/credit. Premiums can already be rated by age, used to be able to have 2 sets of premiums based on tobacco usage. Shouldn't be too much more for the medical analytics to have tables based on BMI, body fat, blood work results... Annual physical requirements or you're automatically put in the highest group for your age.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:32 am to GumboPot
Screw tax credits off the bat, I don’t care what it’s for.
If you want to talk deductions that’s different.
If you want to talk deductions that’s different.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:33 am to PollyDawg
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Who will pay for bloodwork and testing?
Most insurance plans (including government issued) allow for a free annual physical w/ bloodwork. No copays or deductibles
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:44 am to GumboPot
No.
No government data collection.
No government health surveillance.
Hell I barely agree with a census.
No government data collection.
No government health surveillance.
Hell I barely agree with a census.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:51 am to Tmo Sabe
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Hell I barely agree with a census.
If you ever get into genealogy the census is a godsend.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:55 am to GumboPot
Not unless it was shown to affect peoples' conditioning. I wouldn't do it just to punish fatties, because they are already bearing an unpleasant burden.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:55 am to GumboPot
No
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:58 am to GumboPot
quote:Hell no. If you don't care for your self enough to keep healthy, why the hell should taxpayers be forced to care for you?
Would you support a $2000 tax credit per person for being "physically fit"?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:59 am to GumboPot
Reduce fricking taxes and red tape across the board and get govt the frick out of the way.
The only thing that govt should be actively doing IMO is finding a way to shrink each department.
The only thing that govt should be actively doing IMO is finding a way to shrink each department.
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