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re: Witnesses outside school begged officers to go inside while shooting going on
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:54 am to SOSFAN
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:54 am to SOSFAN
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You're using emotions based statements and ignoring reality.
You are a fricking traitor to your fellow man and also a pussy. It isn't emotional to say that cops shouldn't just allow people to shoot up a school without attempting to take the perp down.
Don't be ridiculous.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:54 am to thetempleowl
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Actually yes. I will blame the police. I believe current police thought is you go into an active shooter situation. You don't just surround the building. Yes, if they waited outside while shooting was going on inside I think very poorly of those police. This is what kind of police the left wants.
Well at the very least it should kinda shite all over the lefts meme that we don’t need guns to protect us from bad people because the cops will.
No, the cops will sit outside while your children are being murdered.
Wolves, sheep, and sheepdogs.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:01 am to BoarEd
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are a fricking traitor to your fellow man and also a pussy. It isn't emotional to say that cops shouldn't just allow people to shoot up a school without attempting to take the perp down.
You know how to know when someone is using emotions and not intelligent reasoning...they start using personal attacks. I'm such a traitor that I volunteered for a number of years in the US Navy to protect this countries freedoms including the ones I don't agree with. Yes it is emotional to sky scream that the cops should have just rushed in without knowing what all was waiting on them. The blame is on the POS shooter and his parents not the police.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:01 am to wryder1
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It’s not about being stupid. It’s about sitting outside of a building and not knowing if that next gunshot is for your child. I couldn’t live with myself if I sat outside and that next shot was for my daughter or son. Believe it or not, there are things worst than dying and living with that guilt is one. Is it tactically smart? No but it’s children that need you so you go.
What if the chaos results in more children dying?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:01 am to Homesick Tiger
There is a reason most departments have started issuing AR15's, so that police have the firepower and distance capabilities needed for dealing with threats like this. You don't have time to wait for SWAT.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:07 am to NoSaint
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What if the chaos results in more children dying?
How could more children have died? He killed them all that was in that classroom. The only good thing that could have happened was for police to go inside and possibly take the shooter out before he killed all the children. That way more than likely some of the kids would have lived.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:07 am to Homesick Tiger
That’s really terrible but if there is shooting going on at my kids school and I’m outside there is nothing that will stop me from going in. Nothing.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:09 am to Homesick Tiger
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How could more children have died? He killed them all that was in that classroom. The only good thing that could
Using hindsight you're correct but at the time no one knew if he had help or if there were hostages.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:11 am to SOSFAN
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Using hindsight you're correct but at the time no one knew if he had help or if there were hostages.
More bullshite. He supposedly got into a firefight with the cops before entering the building. They knew damn well what his intentions were. To kill. He had already made that plainly obvious.
Stop covering up for corruption. It's shameful.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:16 am to Homesick Tiger
Would you apply those same standards to your stock broker or doctor? Rush in aimlessly without a plan? Or take time to assess the situation and make a plan, keyboard warriors have no idea what it’s like to be ina fire fight
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:17 am to BoarEd
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Stop covering up for corruption.
I'm covering up corruption? How about you stop using emotions for all your reasoning. You don't have to sky scream. The blame is on the shooter and his family and anyone else that knew about his issues not the police.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:19 am to SOSFAN
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if there were hostages.
So who is naive enough to believe the kids are hostages when you hear multiple gunshots coming from inside a building? Instinct tells you he is shooting people. In that case you react to your instincts.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:22 am to Homesick Tiger
“You don’t need a gun, the police will protect you”
-liberals
-liberals
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:23 am to Homesick Tiger
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So who is naive enough to believe the kids are hostages when you hear multiple gunshots coming from inside a building? Instinct tells you he is shooting people. In that case you react to your instincts.
That person isn't here to discuss this rationally.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:23 am to hjl0820
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Or take time to assess the situation and make a plan
Taking time and making a plan resulted in 19 dead children. Plan didn't work did it?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:24 am to TideHater
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Civilians rushing into a live fire situation would just lead to more casualties. Granted the Police should go in...but not until they have information on what they are going into. Running blindly into an active shooting usually does not end well.
bullshite. Give me a Kevlar vest and a pistol and I guarantee I’d go in alone and kill that SOB
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:24 am to SOSFAN
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The blame is on the shooter and his family and anyone else that knew about his issues not the police.
Yes, the police carry responsibility here too. Period.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:25 am to BoarEd
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, the police carry responsibility here too. Period
There is plenty of blame to go around but the majority is on the POS shooter.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:26 am to Homesick Tiger
One thing is for sure, the conscience of any LEO that stood down for an hour and a half is toast. No matter how LE justifies their choice. Suicides are coming as the public awareness of this scenario increases. Can’t stop that. Best we can hope for is more aggressive policy for the future.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:27 am to SOSFAN
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There is plenty of blame to go around but the majority is on the POS shooter.
It's a replay of what happened in Broward County. And in that case the sheriff was removed from office by the Governor for malfeasance.
Yes, the cops carry responsibility too. Period.
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