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re: Witnesses outside school begged officers to go inside while shooting going on
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:28 am to SOSFAN
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:28 am to SOSFAN
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There is plenty of blame to go around but the majority is on the POS shooter.
This is not about the shooter, it's about the handling of the situation by police.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:30 am to Homesick Tiger
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who is naive enough to believe the kids are hostages when you hear multiple gunshots coming from inside a
No one at that time knew exactly what was going on inside the school. Instead of bitching why didn't the cops rush in we should be asking why wasn't he taken out before he went in is it because they didn't know what his intentions were?or better yet why didn't his family or others that knew about his past step in. They are the ones that should have the blame dumped in
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:31 am to BoarEd
Yeah I'm with you on this. These crazed lunatics are pushed towards these shootings by the fbi and are used as pawns for politics. You can tell because as soon as we have a shooting they all go on social media and all say the same thing. Sames as the covid hoax, 10 months before election they were all pushing mail in voting. Most are so asleep they can't see this unfortunately.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:34 am to SOSFAN
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No one at that time knew exactly what was going on inside the school.
Was his rifle silenced? How could there be any confusion about what was going on inside the school.
You also argued "what if there were two shooters" - then that's an even bigger reason to go in and confront the shooters, unless your point is you'd rather have kids taking fire than those trained and paid to protect.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:34 am to Homesick Tiger
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This is not about the shooter, it's about the handling of the situation by police.
It's easy to 2nd guess after knowing the outcome. If the cops knew then what we know now the hell yes they should have rushed in but the reality is they are trained to get recon and keep the active shooter from leaving. Maybe we should be blaming the training and not the individual.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:35 am to SOSFAN
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better yet why didn't his family or others that knew about his past step in. They are the ones that should have the blame dumped in
That response by you is getting old. We're discussing a situation at hand of what should have been done in the present, not the past.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:38 am to SOSFAN
I don’t think you have an accurate picture of active shooter training for police.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:40 am to David_DJS
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argued "what if there were two shooters" - then that's an even bigger reason to go in and confront the shooters, unless your point is you'd rather have kids taking
What if the 2nd shooter had hostages or was waiting for first responders to rush in? In retrospect I wished they would have killed the bastard from the start but blaming police is not where our hatred should be
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:42 am to Homesick Tiger
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We're discussing a situation at hand of what should have been done in the present, not the past.
But you're using hindsight based off of information we have now instead of what we had in real time. I agree I wish more had been done.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:43 am to SOSFAN
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I agree I wish more had been done.
Then we agree.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:44 am to SOSFAN
As a parent there is literally nothing on God's earth that would have stopped me from going in if my boys were in there. Nothing. I would never be able to look in a mirror again had I sat out there wondering & hoping if my boys were OK.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:45 am to the808bass
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don’t think you have an accurate picture of active shooter training for police.
And I'm man enough to say you may be right. I would like to see what their training manual does say. I agree that we need to find out how to fix our failures.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:47 am to boxersdrule
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would have stopped me from going in if my boys were in there. Nothing. I would never be able to look in a mirror again had I sat out there wondering & hoping if my boys were OK.
Looking at my 14, 7 and 6yr olds this morning I can tell you that nothing would have stopped me from rushing in either. I would happily give my life for theirs without hesitation.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:54 am to SOSFAN
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Do you just rush in without knowing what you're rushing into? It's easy to play the should of when you weren't even there.
Uh yes. If there are shots being fired in an elementary school classroom? Are you fricking seriously asking this question. You sound like the Broward cowards.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:54 am to SOSFAN
Cops, day late and a dollar short.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:57 am to SOSFAN
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but the reality is they are trained to get recon and keep the active shooter from leaving. Maybe we should be blaming the training and not the individual.
No they are not
They have been trained for 20 years to engage the shooter
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:57 am to tigerpimpbot
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yes. If there are shots being fired in an elementary school classroom? Are you fricking seriously asking this question. You sound like the Broward cowards.
And it could have been a setup to take out first responders then y'all would be posting that the police were stupid to have rushed in without Intel
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:02 am to SOSFAN
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And it could have been a setup to take out first responders then y'all would be posting that the police were stupid to have rushed in without Intel
he had already exchanged rounds with police, been chased by police, killed his grandma, texted a friend that he was going to the school
So they knew it was only one guy
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:02 am to Midtiger farm
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Lockdown was the standard active shooter response method for many years, but almost every police officer in America has had a conversation similar to this with their children: “If you ever see someone with a gun other than mommy, daddy or a police officer, you need to run fast.”
Everything I'm finding is using the lockdown method not the rush in
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:03 am to SOSFAN
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Looking at my 14, 7 and 6yr olds this morning I can tell you that nothing would have stopped me from rushing in either. I would happily give my life for theirs without hesitation.
Yet the cops didn't, eventhough they take a vow to protect those who can't protect themselves so I'm not real sure why you are defending their lack of action based on what you said above.
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