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re: Why wouldn’t you want a successful vaccine with these stats?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:27 am to beebefootballfan
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:27 am to beebefootballfan
In the end, all this get the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine rhetoric comes down to a simple question.
Do you trust big pharmaceutical companies and the government?
If the answer is no, and you are relatively healthy you probably aren’t taking the vaccine. The gray area comes to people who answer no and know they have health issues.
Do you trust big pharmaceutical companies and the government?
If the answer is no, and you are relatively healthy you probably aren’t taking the vaccine. The gray area comes to people who answer no and know they have health issues.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 5:30 am
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:37 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Now do those as percentages of total.
The swine fly vaccine was TERMINATED at 135 deaths. Sorry you are weak minded and got sold.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:38 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Eli Goldfinger
Now do percentages of deaths to cases by age group
Or do percentages of people who got it and didn’t even know they had it.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 5:59 am to beebefootballfan
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And thats just what's been reported
Link?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:02 am to Strannix
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The swine fly vaccine was TERMINATED at 135 deaths. Sorry you are weak minded and got sold.
It was actually halted at fewer than fifty deaths but that swine flu had very few deaths anyway.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:07 am to No Colors
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Link?
CDC VAERS
The pro-jabbers will make up some bullshite about it, but if anyone has ever tried to file with them, it’s a real pain in the arse. That’s why they say less than 6% of incidents get reported.
Almost like big pharma doesn’t want it to be easy.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 6:08 am
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:08 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Now do those as percentages of total.
Now do covid survival rate percentage...just in general.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:09 am to Scorpio58
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Tell that to the 11,190 families that buried a loved one who may have had a 98% chance of surviving the virus. Even if half that died were healthy and had no other factors that would have contributed to Covid death, that is still 5,500 healthy dead people!
How many 65 year old plus people die every day?
The majority of people 65 years or older got the vaccine.
This number of deaths in a population that size is normal precovid and would've been much higher if you added covid in.
People who are over 65 die.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:11 am to cssamerican
quote:Negative.
In the end, all this get the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine rhetoric comes down to a simple question.
Do you trust big pharmaceutical companies and the government?
It does not come down to who you don't trust.
It comes down to who you do trust.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:38 am to TaderSalad
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but if anyone has ever tried to file with them, it’s a real pain in the arse.
You fill in a form and submit it.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:49 am to TaderSalad
quote:Yeah, it's a regular bastion of solid data over there:
but if anyone has ever tried to file with them, it’s a real pain in the arse. That’s why they say less than 6% of incidents get reported.
quote:LINK
In 2004, anesthesiologist James Laidler submitted an alarming report to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Laidler wrote that after he got his annual influenza vaccine, his muscles began to grow in size, his skin became green, and he turned into the Incredible Hulk
See also:
quote:LINK
Two years after Laidler wrote that his flu shot had turned him into the Incredible Hulk, Kevin Leitch of the science blog Left Brain Right Brain demonstrated that what Laidler had done wasn’t any kind of fluke by submitting a VAERS report noting that his baby daughter had been turned into Wonder Woman following a vaccination.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 6:54 am to FCP
quote:Yep. They take Hulk and WonderWoman submissions, but only 6% of incidents overall. It's a real headscratcher.
Yeah, it's a regular bastion of solid data over there:
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:04 am to BurntOrangeMan
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You have a lot of opinion & attitude for someone who lacks intelligence & self awareness.
8000 people died a day in the US in 2019. Most people taking the vaccine are at risk individuals that likely would have died within two weeks after getting the vaccine regardless. I’m not sure how else to phrase this so your pea brain can understand it.
11,000 / 350,000,000 = 0.003%
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:12 am to Dizz
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This is not true,
It actually is true, click the link and read the declarations.
Here's the context of the PREP Act https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/default.aspx:
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The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act) authorizes the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (Secretary) to issue a PREP Act declaration. The declaration provides immunity from liability (except for willful misconduct) for claims:
* of loss caused, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from administration or use of countermeasures to diseases, threats and conditions
* determined by the Secretary to constitute a present, or credible risk of a future public health emergency
to entities and individuals involved in the development, manufacture, testing, distribution, administration, and use of such countermeasures
A PREP Act declaration is specifically for the purpose of providing immunity from liability, and is different from, and not dependent on, other emergency declarations.
It doesn't get much more plain-English than that.
What you are probably thinking of are claims under normal circumstances. This is not a normal circumstance thus these injections are being done under the umbrella of the PREP Act.
As I've stated before, under normal timelines we would barely be out of animal testing right now (averages about a year), instead we're already in Phase VI (which is usually 7 years into the attempt to gain FDA application process).
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 8:24 am
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:17 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Now do those as percentages of total.
Always the dumbest of takes.
Just so we are clear, when should we be alarmed? 50,000 deaths, 100,000? 500,000?
All of those numbers are still very small percentages.
So what’s your number?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:25 am to deathvalleytiger10
Below are CV-19 cases and deaths. We know both are inflated with the 40 cycle PCR test and CV-19 being the cause of death if you just happen to die while having covid.
2020-2021 Covid-19
Jan 2020 thru July 28, 2021
CV-19 Deaths: 609,000
CV-19 Cases: 34,631,447
Case Death Rate: 0.01758
Case Survival %: 98.24 %
Survival % for US Pop: 99.816 %
Using the Vax Number from the OP for just the deaths and complications, because I'm assuming all went to the hospital, so ignored the hospitalizations.
Using the 130,000,000 fully vaccinated number you get
99.97% of not having any adverse reaction.
Interesting enough here is data from 2017-2018 Flu season.
US Pop: 331,000,000
2017-2018 Flu Season
Flu Deaths: 61,100
Flu Cases: 44,803,000
Case Death Rate: 0.001363748
Case Survival %: 99.86 %
Survival % for US Pop: 99.982 %
So looking at the deaths for Flu and Covid, there is 0.1% difference in death rates?
Why are we freaking out?
Sure 0.1% means 330,000 people, but it is guaranteed that the deaths are inflated and there has to be a percent that were flu deaths in the Covid death rates. There is no way flu disappeared.
2020-2021 Covid-19
Jan 2020 thru July 28, 2021
CV-19 Deaths: 609,000
CV-19 Cases: 34,631,447
Case Death Rate: 0.01758
Case Survival %: 98.24 %
Survival % for US Pop: 99.816 %
Using the Vax Number from the OP for just the deaths and complications, because I'm assuming all went to the hospital, so ignored the hospitalizations.
Using the 130,000,000 fully vaccinated number you get
99.97% of not having any adverse reaction.
Interesting enough here is data from 2017-2018 Flu season.
US Pop: 331,000,000
2017-2018 Flu Season
Flu Deaths: 61,100
Flu Cases: 44,803,000
Case Death Rate: 0.001363748
Case Survival %: 99.86 %
Survival % for US Pop: 99.982 %
So looking at the deaths for Flu and Covid, there is 0.1% difference in death rates?
Why are we freaking out?
Sure 0.1% means 330,000 people, but it is guaranteed that the deaths are inflated and there has to be a percent that were flu deaths in the Covid death rates. There is no way flu disappeared.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:48 am to beebefootballfan
Deaths are way under reported
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:52 am to jp4lsu
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Why are we freaking out?
Well, probably ...
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CV-19 Deaths: 609,000
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Flu Deaths: 61,100
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:52 am to beebefootballfan
Those are cases where an outcome happed to someone WITH the vaccine not BECAUSE of the vaccine.
Some of those might be adverse reactions but often it is coincidence.
Some of those might be adverse reactions but often it is coincidence.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:03 am to beebefootballfan
Thanks for the public service announcement.
Maybe we can now get back to not being afraid of so many things. That is exactly what media/govt want.
It is so simple. If you want the shot get it. If you do not, don't. It is safe to assume that there is enough information/misinformation/disinformation floating around the ether of the cosmos.
Maybe we can now get back to not being afraid of so many things. That is exactly what media/govt want.
It is so simple. If you want the shot get it. If you do not, don't. It is safe to assume that there is enough information/misinformation/disinformation floating around the ether of the cosmos.
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