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re: Why wouldn’t you want a successful vaccine with these stats?

Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29615 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:21 am to
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11,190 deaths
41,000 hospitalizations
4100 anaphylaxis reactions
3714 reports of Bells Palsy
1272 miscarriages
4800 heart attacks
12,808 permanent disabilities

I mean that’s one hell of a safety record. They normally don’t let those great results get out of animals trials.



Would like to red pill some people with this. Link?
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9891 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:31 am to
LINK

There's a big caveat before getting into it because none of the data is verified and anyone can submit it.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9891 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:34 am to
That said, the numbers shown aren't even accurate. Here's what they actually show:

4,605 deaths
123 hospitalizations
1,526 anaphylaxis reactions
2,483 reports of Bells Palsy
646 miscarriages
868 heart attacks
? permanent disabilities
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9891 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:38 am to
Some other fun/hilarious reported side effects:

DEATH OF PET 1 0.00%
OVERWORK 1 0.00%
PARENT-CHILD PROBLEM 1 0.00%
VICTIM OF ABUSE 1 0.00%
CIRCUMSTANCE OR INFORMATION CAPABLE OF LEADING TO DEVICE USE ERROR 1 0.00%
EYELASH CHANGES 1 0.00%
DROOPING SHOULDER SYNDROME 1 0.00%
NEAR DROWNING 1 0.00%

If anyone needs salt grains with the VAERS data
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9891 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:39 am to
And the full list of side effects that affect 1% or more:

quote:


HEADACHE 85,497 19.65%
PYREXIA 69,750 16.03%
FATIGUE 68,739 15.80%
CHILLS 64,277 14.77%
PAIN 62,535 14.37%
DIZZINESS 51,070 11.74%
NAUSEA 49,909 11.47%
PAIN IN EXTREMITY 41,394 9.51%
INJECTION SITE PAIN 31,609 7.27%
ARTHRALGIA 26,594 6.11%
MYALGIA 26,334 6.05%
RASH 23,931 5.50%
DYSPNOEA 23,545 5.41%
INJECTION SITE ERYTHEMA 23,252 5.34%
PRURITUS 22,614 5.20%
VOMITING 18,881 4.34%
INJECTION SITE SWELLING 18,823 4.33%
ASTHENIA 17,357 3.99%
INJECTION SITE PRURITUS 16,735 3.85%
HYPERHIDROSIS 16,028 3.68%
ERYTHEMA 15,541 3.57%
PARAESTHESIA 15,468 3.56%
DIARRHOEA 14,554 3.35%
URTICARIA 14,127 3.25%
HYPOAESTHESIA 13,972 3.21%
LYMPHADENOPATHY 13,031 3.00%
FEELING ABNORMAL 12,927 2.97%
MALAISE 12,657 2.91%
INJECTION SITE WARMTH 11,964 2.75%
CHEST PAIN 11,904 2.74%
SYNCOPE 10,760 2.47%
PERIPHERAL SWELLING 10,597 2.44%
COUGH 10,347 2.38%
CHEST DISCOMFORT 9,603 2.21%
INJECTION SITE RASH 9,404 2.16%
COVID-19 9,378 2.16%
TREMOR 9,240 2.12%
HEART RATE INCREASED 8,789 2.02%
TINNITUS 8,588 1.97%
PALPITATIONS 8,580 1.97%
BLOOD TEST 8,469 1.95%
BACK PAIN 8,364 1.92%
FEELING HOT 8,008 1.84%
LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS 7,769 1.79%
RASH ERYTHEMATOUS 7,568 1.74%
SARS-COV-2 TEST 7,423 1.71%
DECREASED APPETITE 7,363 1.69%
SARS-COV-2 TEST POSITIVE 7,217 1.66%
SWELLING 7,060 1.62%
FLUSHING 7,048 1.62%
SKIN WARM 6,996 1.61%
ELECTROCARDIOGRAM 6,937 1.59%
NECK PAIN 6,910 1.59%
OROPHARYNGEAL PAIN 6,654 1.53%
CONDITION AGGRAVATED 6,648 1.53%
RASH PRURITIC 6,238 1.43%
PRODUCT ADMINISTERED TO PATIENT OF INAPPROPRIATE AGE 6,069 1.39%
SARS-COV-2 TEST NEGATIVE 5,992 1.38%
MOBILITY DECREASED 5,823 1.34%
BODY TEMPERATURE INCREASED 5,794 1.33%
SLEEP DISORDER 5,740 1.32%
INFLUENZA LIKE ILLNESS 5,720 1.31%
MIGRAINE 5,615 1.29%
ANXIETY 5,515 1.27%
PRODUCT STORAGE ERROR 5,431 1.25%
PARAESTHESIA ORAL 5,308 1.22%
THROAT TIGHTNESS 5,115 1.18%
SWELLING FACE 4,920 1.13%
NO ADVERSE EVENT 4,890 1.12%
FEELING COLD 4,868 1.12%
MUSCLE SPASMS 4,867 1.12%
VERTIGO 4,853 1.12%
ABDOMINAL PAIN UPPER 4,748 1.09%
COMPUTERISED TOMOGRAM 4,731 1.09%
INJECTION SITE INDURATION 4,631 1.06%
LETHARGY 4,625 1.06%
DEATH 4,605 1.06%
FALL 4,559 1.05%
BLOOD PRESSURE INCREASED 4,485 1.03%
VISION BLURRED 4,455 1.02%
HERPES ZOSTER 4,449 1.02%
THROAT IRRITATION 4,421 1.02%
BODY TEMPERATURE 4,406 1.01%
ABDOMINAL PAIN 4,394 1.01%
VACCINATION SITE PAIN 4,330 1.00%

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:01 am to
quote:

And the full list of side effects that affect 1% or more:



quote:

COVID-19 9,378 2.16%





that's a perfect example why your list is trash. there is a 0% possibility covid19 is an adverse effect of the vax, yet it is being reported to happen over 2% of the time. DEATH happens over 1% of the time? the list is hilarious, vaers submissions regarding covid are pretty blatantly anti-vax propaganda at this point.

also your list mentioned vaccine site pain, pain, and injection site pain as separate side effects. it listed pyrexia, feeling warm, increased body temperature. Chills and feeling cold.


it also lists many things that are impossible for a vaccine to cause as an adverse effect
quote:

SARS-COV-2 TEST 7,423 1.71%
COMPUTERISED TOMOGRAM 4,731 1.09%
BODY TEMPERATURE 4,406 1.01%
ELECTROCARDIOGRAM 6,937 1.59%
SARS-COV-2 TEST NEGATIVE 5,992 1.38%

now the shot is causing EKGs, CT scans, and your body to have a temperature.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 10:03 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32202 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:12 am to
quote:

symptoms from Covid.

Do you mean like dead?
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:22 am to
If you could manage to work within the context of conversation your shortcomings wouldn’t be as prevalent.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87351 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:24 am to
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To be clear, this old libertarian thinks you should do whatever you want with your body, and IDGAF if you decide to forego this particular vaccination. I understand that reasonable minds may differ, and, in fact, my dad was diagnosed with Covid this weekend after spurning every Covid restriction enacted since March 2020. Obviously, he declined the vaccine. He's an adult and can make his own decisions--the hell with what anyone thinks.

My struggle is with understanding the logic of impugning a group of folks who forego something like the MMR vaccine due to non-existent health risks while almost simultaneously declining the Covid vaccine due to the same potential health risks.


being anti-vax for vaccines with full FDA approval and decades of data and research is one thing

being reluctant to take an experimental drug with no FDA approval and you sign a liability waiver is a completely different thing
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51461 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:21 pm to
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a liability waiver


I've been told "That is not true".
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1375 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:44 pm to
It's real simple- remove all protections from liability for the drug manufacturers. If it's truly safe, what's the problem?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51461 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:03 pm to
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It's real simple- remove all protections from liability for the drug manufacturers. If it's truly safe, what's the problem?


The PREP Act was designed specifically to encourage rapid production of vaccines to protect American citizens in case of a potential public health threat. This was passed in 2005 at the urging of GWB with the idea of being able to fast-track countermeasures in the case of chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear agents of terrorism with epidemics and pandemics as lesser considerations.

With COVID, pharmas were pressured (begged, actually) to hurry and develop something. The FDA went so far as to enact PREPA to speed the process along.

The problem is that we're already into MILLIONS of injections from concoctions which didn't even exist two years ago. Such a low initial testing phase (animal testing and Phase I trials each usually take a year apiece, for example, yet in just under 1.5 years we're already at Phase IV level of release) means a higher possibility of something like thalidomide could occur.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

It's real simple- remove all protections from liability for the drug manufacturers. If it's truly safe, what's the problem?
Ask that to silicone breast implant manufacturers.
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