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re: Why have Caddo Parish's cash bail costs more than tripled since 2012?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 5:15 am to lsufan1971
Posted on 2/11/24 at 5:15 am to lsufan1971
quote:One would surmise bail, if offered under those circumstances, does just the opposite. Right?
Bail exists
... To keep a violent person off the street until they are adjudicated.
quote:How would asset seizure and/or major fines for court no-shows not do the same thing?
Bail exists
... to ensure they show up for their court date.
For example, the judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial slapped him with a $2M bail. Two million dollars! Standard bail bonds run 10-15% interest. That interest payment goes to the bondsman, and is never returned.
Why should Kyle Rittenhouse, as an innocent person, be penalized $200K just to stay out of jail?
$200,000.00 is essentially four years of all-expenses-paid college funding which, under our normal system, people like the Rittenhouses are forced to forfeit in financial ruin to a bondsman.
Is that a system you support?
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:10 am to Ghost of Colby
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It’s because the D.A. essentially shut down prosecutions for 3 years.
This is the winner comment.
1000% this
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:21 am to ksayetiger
If bail amounts had not increased 259% since 2012, more people would have been able to post bail or bond out instead of staying in pretrial detention for twice as long.
Instead, they are detained with no conviction, lose jobs, houses/cars/other assets, and potentially custody of their own children because they have been accused of a crime.
Instead, they are detained with no conviction, lose jobs, houses/cars/other assets, and potentially custody of their own children because they have been accused of a crime.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:27 am to 4cubbies
I see your prison Marxist ministry is coming along well. I’m sure you are rehabilitating them in a way that is mutually enjoyable, and also cat- friendly. Go Cubbies!
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:46 am to stout
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Can you define what exactly an assault rifle is
Big. Black. Scary looking.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:21 am to 4cubbies
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It seems that if someone isn’t able to afford bail, that would equate to excessive bail
Do you realize how ignorant this opinion is? So if someone is arrested and bail is $100 then you think that is excessive?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:09 am to Ponchy Tiger
How out of touch are you to believe everyone has an extra $100 lying around? This is such an insular and sheltered community.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:11 am to Ponchy Tiger
Most of those dudes are probably a hell of a lot safer in prison than not.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:22 am to 4cubbies
Why arrest them once when you can arrest them 20 times?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:23 am to 4cubbies
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How out of touch are you to believe everyone has an extra $100 lying around? This is such an insular and sheltered community.
Every democrat politician and every dem talking head on tv does. They should just keep the bail funds coming. Since they believe in this.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:56 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:49 pm to 4cubbies
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It seems that if someone isn’t able to afford bail, that would equate to excessive bail, which is prohibited by the Eighth Amendments.
With this line of reasoning, you might as well just do away with bail altogether.
Catch and release.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:01 pm to Godfather1
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With this line of reasoning, you might as well just do away with bail altogether.
If bail exists to ensure the accused appears in court, I agree. If there is enough evidence at the time of arrest to ascertain that the accused is violent and a danger to society, that person should be remanded. What’s the purpose of setting an unattainable bail?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 4:17 pm to 4cubbies
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Why have Caddo Parish's cash bail costs more than tripled since 2012?
THIS is the inflation you are worried about??? Seriously???
Man…… if only there was an easier way to NOT have to worry about bail……….. if only……. I wonder……..
Posted on 2/11/24 at 4:25 pm to 4cubbies
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If bail exists to ensure the accused appears in court, I agree. If there is enough evidence at the time of arrest to ascertain that the accused is violent and a danger to society, that person should be remanded. What’s the purpose of setting an unattainable bail?
We can always go the route of the liberal cities who have done away with cash bail. They seem to have it all figured out. Right?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 4:31 pm to CleverUserName
The whole state of Illinois abolished cash bail.
2 months of no-cash bail: How Illinois courtroom handles new law
Releasing people pretrial doesn’t harm public safety
2 months of no-cash bail: How Illinois courtroom handles new law
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“The practical effect is, if our client is not in jail, they’re free to continue to try to work, to try to continue to care for their children, or whatever obligations they have, live their life, enjoy their liberty, while they are presumed innocent.” said Khoury.
Releasing people pretrial doesn’t harm public safety
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We found four states, as well as nine cities and counties, where data exist measuring public safety from before and after the adoption of pretrial reforms. All of these jurisdictions saw decreases or negligible increases in crime or re-arrest rates after implementing reforms.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 4:39 pm to Godfather1
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Catch and release.
For some reason we felt compelled to try this a few years ago, the thought was we could close some pretrial facilities and save money.
Crime went so out of control there was a voter revolt.
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Alaska Governor Michael J. Dunleavy today signed into law House Bill 49, a criminal justice reform package championed and ushered through the legislature by his administration. The legislation, which effectively repeals and replaces the failed SB91, addresses many of the gaps in Alaska’s criminal statutes and codes by strengthening sentencing for many felonies, giving discretion back to judges and the Parole Board, and making improvements to the “catch and release” bail system.
Organized crime moved in and ravaged the town like locusts.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 4:48 pm to 4cubbies
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Releasing people pretrial doesn’t harm public safety
if all else fails… pull out a leftist non profit information. The prison policy initiative.
I’m sorry. But actual, real world, real life, results actually show the truth. Posted on 2/11/24 at 5:01 pm to CleverUserName
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But actual, real world, real life, results actually show the truth.
Can you share these actual, real world, real life, results with us?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 5:28 pm to 4cubbies
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Can you share these actual, real world, real life, results with us?
You actually need someone to show you… point out to you… why cashless bail has been an utter failure?
Well since you cannot stray from your programming… how about an NBC link to start you off?
LINK
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On Jan. 1, a landmark New York law curtailing the use of cash bail went into effect, signaling a leap in a nationwide movement to reduce the number of people held in jails. But after less than a week under the new system, elected officials are already having second thoughts, rattled by stories of suspects' being set free and committing new crimes - including that of a woman accused of an anti-Semitic attack in New York City.
It took less than a WEEK to see its failure. Less. Than. A. WEEK.
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