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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:37 pm to 4cubbies
No, I fully believe in innocent until proven guilty. But if worthy of arrest, then they made that bed.
Liberals cease to comprehend the basic concept of self-responsibility. Literally. To a Liberal, nothing is ever anyone’s fault.
Black man robs a bank? Well, only because he’s poor. He can’t help he grew up in poverty. So to a Liberal, society is guilty but the actual person is not.
Liberals cease to comprehend the basic concept of self-responsibility. Literally. To a Liberal, nothing is ever anyone’s fault.
Black man robs a bank? Well, only because he’s poor. He can’t help he grew up in poverty. So to a Liberal, society is guilty but the actual person is not.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:07 pm to riverdiver
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Seems like the areas run by leftists who want to defund police, ignore crime, and coddle criminals are short on police.
Nationally, police force numbers are down across the board.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:08 pm to riccoar
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I fully believe in innocent until proven guilty. But if worthy of arrest, then they made that bed.
This is a contradiction.
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Liberals cease to comprehend the basic concept of self-responsibility. Literally. To a Liberal, nothing is ever anyone’s fault.
Black man robs a bank? Well, only because he’s poor. He can’t help he grew up in poverty. So to a Liberal, society is guilty but the actual person is not.
This rant has nothing to do with cash bail.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:11 pm to 4cubbies
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It seems that if someone isn’t able to afford bail, that would equate to excessive bail
Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:59 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Where in the 5th Amendment does it mention "presumption of innocence"?
The presumption of innocence is also recognized as a due process right under the 5th Amendment
For your convenience, here is the complete text of the 5th Amendment:
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"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:11 pm to 4cubbies
Why do you support releasing criminals off the hook in any way possible?
You’re a literal POS and people like you are what causes trouble in this country with your constant victim mentality.
You have some karma coming your way, you useless worm. When it hits you, who knows, but you will have a big dose of it. You and the rest of your ilk will get what’s coming to y’all and it’ll be done by those exact POS useless dregs of society y’all defend.
You’re a literal POS and people like you are what causes trouble in this country with your constant victim mentality.
You have some karma coming your way, you useless worm. When it hits you, who knows, but you will have a big dose of it. You and the rest of your ilk will get what’s coming to y’all and it’ll be done by those exact POS useless dregs of society y’all defend.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:14 pm to 4cubbies
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if someone isn’t able to afford bail, that would equate to excessive bail
Yeah, we should definitely stop giving people accused of murder 500k bails. How could anyone afford that?
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:16 pm to LSURussian
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Where in the 5th Amendment does it mention "presumption of innocence"?
Give me a break. Where is the second amendment does it say citizens can possess guns?
The Fifth Amendment says
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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury
The accused shouldn’t be held until they are indicted. Why would the constitution stipulate that if there isn’t a presumption of innocence?
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:23 pm to imjustafatkid
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Yeah, we should definitely stop giving people accused of murder 500k bails. How could anyone afford that?
Do you understand that most arrests are for nonviolent offenses, not murder? You’re operating based on false emotional assumptions.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:38 pm to 4cubbies
quote:I've been trying to give you break but you keep digging the hole deeper.
Give me a break. Where is the second amendment does it say citizens can possess guns?
The second amendment uses the word "Arms" as a synonym for "guns."
"..the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." (And "Arms" is even capitalized in the handwritten text of the 2nd Amendment.)
Not even the most fervent anti-gun fanatics have ever argued that "Arms" does not refer to "guns."
You're truly embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:39 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Irony...
You’re operating based on false emotional assumptions.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:41 pm to LSURussian
What emotional claim am I making? That people should be presumed innocent until proven guilty?
I guess I’m as emotional as every single defense attorney in our country.
I guess I’m as emotional as every single defense attorney in our country.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:42 pm to 4cubbies
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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:43 pm to LSURussian
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The second amendment uses the word "Arms" as a synonym for "guns."
Based on your interpretation.
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Not even the most fervent anti-gun fanatics have ever argued that "Arms" does not refer to "guns."
You're truly embarrassing yourself.
If never seen anyone argue that every person accused of crimes should be presumed guilty, but you seem confident in making that claim.
Fortunately, Supreme Court disagrees.
United States. Coffin v. United States, 156 U.S. 432 (1895) established the presumption of innocence of persons accused of crimes.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:53 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Your emotions reveal themselves when you claim the Constitution contains words that aren't there, such as "innocent until proven guilty is a guarantee in the Constitution."
What emotional claim am I making?
That people should be presumed innocent until proven guilty?
Or when you say it's only my interpretation that "arms" is a synonym for "guns." That has been accepted by every court and/or constitutional scholar in the U.S.
Or, when you say, "If (sic) never seen anyone argue that every person accused of crimes should be presumed guilty, but you seem confident in making that claim." Yet nowhere in any of my statements have I hinted that I believe that.
You see, you're just being typically emotional in your statements. Just making up lies because you can't defend your claims with truthful and accurate statements.
I used to feel sorry for you. Now I just disdain you. You deserve every bit of ridicule you receive on this board.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 3:05 pm to LSURussian
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Your emotions reveal themselves when you claim the Constitution contains words that aren't there, such as "innocent until proven guilty is a guarantee in the Constitution."
It’s a guaranteed as the right to own guns.
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Or when you say it's only my interpretation that "arms" is a synonym for "guns." That has been accepted by every court and/or constitutional scholar in the U.S.
I’m playing by your rules. It doesn’t matter to you that the Supreme Court declared in 1895 that Constitution guarantees the presumption of innocence. Instead you’re claiming I’m emotional for agreeing with the Court. But of course this board isn’t sexist. How many men do you call emotional for agreeing with the Supreme Court?
ETA: just saw the part about how you disdain me for disagreeing with you . But tell me again how I’m the emotional one.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 3:07 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Every day with your dumb arse, fricking broken record indeed.
his board isn’t sexist
Posted on 2/10/24 at 3:08 pm to Jbird
About as much of a broken record as you creeps speculating about who I have sex with.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 3:10 pm to 4cubbies
Nobody gives a shite about you, the stolen bike. or the homeless guy you banged.
We are laughing at, not with you.
We are laughing at, not with you.
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