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re: Why have Caddo Parish's cash bail costs more than tripled since 2012?

Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:44 am to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:44 am to
Honest question - do you think the criminal justice system is “functioning” in places like East Baton Rouge or Orleans parish?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:46 am to
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you will lie to make your point as LSU Russian pointed out.


What did I lie about? You don’t think due process dictates that the accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty?

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here are people here with opposing views who are worthy of dialogue back and forward but you aren't one of them.

Then stop replying to me. You claim all these things about why I’m not worth your attention but you won’t stop giving it to me. Make that make sense.

This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:50 am to
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Then stop replying to me. You claim all these things about why I’m not worth your attention but you won’t stop giving it to me. Make that make sense.



Making fun of you and pointing out how you are constantly ignorant and wrong is worth 30 seconds of my time here and there. It doesn't take much effort.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:54 am to
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do you think the criminal justice system is “functioning” in places like East Baton Rouge or Orleans parish?


That depends on what you mean by functioning.

I don’t think it’s effective in New Orleans. Not super familiar with cj in BR but it doesn’t look like it’s effective anywhere in the state. Unless efficacy is judged based solely on incarcerations.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:56 am to
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Yes - let’s wait for dangerous people to commit a second crime before revoking bail or setting it higher.


Considering most arrests are not for violent offenses, this doesn’t really compute.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:58 am to
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Making fun of you and pointing out how you are constantly ignorant and wrong


But you just say I’m wrong without proving anything. Because you either cannot or don’t know how to.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:02 pm to
Do you feel like either city is safe?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122845 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:06 pm to
I’d argue property crimes deserve just as much scrutiny as violent crimes at a certain level. Letting brazen theft happen is leading to failing cities. Weed =\= theft
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:08 pm to
That’s such a complicated question. I don’t feel unsafe in either city but unsafe things happen daily in both cities.

Both cities could certainly be safer.

If safety is judged based on arrests, convictions, incarcerations - I think we’d have to separate each by charges to get a more accurate picture of public safety. For example, domestic violence is abhorrent, but does that impact the general safety of the entire population of a city? Do drug charges impact the general safety of the entire population of a city?

What do you think?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:12 pm to
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I’d argue property crimes deserve just as much scrutiny as violent crimes at a certain level. Letting brazen theft happen is leading to failing cities.


I can agree. A statue of the Blessed Mother was stolen from my front garden about 5 years ago. That’s a property crime. My vehicle was stolen last year, which is also a property crime. Obviously they aren’t the same but my feelings were really hurt by both crimes. I kinda think both are indicative of a failing city because the stolen statue happened in broad daylight.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182303 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:12 pm to
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But you just say I’m wrong without proving anything.


I already covered why


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Your mind is made up before you even start a thread



Try to keep up
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5120 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:14 pm to
Very, very simple solution.

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

I’ve never seen a productive law abiding citizen ever arrested for living life and obeying society’s laws. Not once.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122845 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:15 pm to
I lived next to a gentrifying neighborhood in Houston that routinely had cars go missing in the middle of the night. I’d imagine those folks felt just as violated as a low level violent crime like a mugging.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122845 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:16 pm to
I think the reform movement made a lot more sense when our cities were not lawless
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:18 pm to
Part of the reason our cities are lawless is lack of police nationwide. How can we fix that?
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Considering most arrests are not for violent offenses, this doesn’t really compute.


So, NYC likes letting loose those arrested for violent crimes on no bail.

How’s that working for them?

But on the other hand, the guy who was protecting subway riders is being treated as if he’s Son of Sam.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:26 pm to
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You just hurl insults because you’re too much of a redneck to come up with a coherent argument.

Instead of posting any sort of original idea, you only insult because you’re too insecure to have anyone disagree with your ideas (if you’re even capable of having any). You go for low-hanging fruit for upvotes from other middle-aged men so you can feel good about yourself. Bless your heart.
fricking broken record.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:26 pm to
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I’ve never seen a productive law abiding citizen ever arrested for living life and obeying society’s laws. Not once.


Do you believe everyone arrested is guilty? If not, clearly innocent people have been arrested.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Part of the reason our cities are lawless is lack of police nationwide. How can we fix that?


Some areas have plenty of police.

Seems like the areas run by leftists who want to defund police, ignore crime, and coddle criminals are short on police.

What’s your opinion on that?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:27 pm to
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fricking broken record.


But posters speculating about my sex life isn’t?
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