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re: Why doesn’t Vivek, Elon and Sachs just outsource code monkeys instead of H1Bs?

Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:19 am to
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20201 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:19 am to
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We love the meritocracy until it’s time for the employee reviews

They don’t have more merit, they’re just cheaper foreign labor.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173446 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:30 am to
Wouldn't it be better to have them here paying taxes and contributing to our economy? Outsourcing doesn't protect American jobs either so that's a lose lose situation
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22663 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:46 am to
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Wouldn't it be better to have them here paying taxes and contributing to our economy? Outsourcing doesn't protect American jobs either so that's a lose lose situation

Maybe. Maybe not. Devil’s in the details on this one, and to this point the liberal H1B visa bros seem to be short on detail.
Posted by TarheelPete
Carrboro
Member since Jun 2024
615 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:57 am to
I had Gumbo down for the JooAnonTard bracket. Which has evolved into the HinduAnonTard bracket in the last 72 hours.

Seems like only yesterday people were complaining about participation trophies and how lazy/retarded/entitled millennials and gen z were.

Now all of a sudden that is offensive

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:39 am to
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Hey here's a thought. If you want to be a good coder then don't be lazy as frick and become a good coder. If you are a hardworking good coder from America then you won't ever have to worry about your job being replaced.


the evidence points in the other direction, there's only been about 1000 posts on here the past couple days talking about this
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73019 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:25 am to
this is only in regards to Musk and SpaceX but....

He cannot employ non-citizens at SpaceX due to the rocket program. Federal law due to rockets being a potential weapon.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82218 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:19 am to
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We love the meritocracy until it’s time for the employee reviews


This is why I don't hate private sector unions.

None of those super computers running Asian built code will do shite without baws turning wrenches down at the power plant.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138561 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:16 am to
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It’s 2024. We have the internet.
Stereotypes can be unfair to individuals, but they also normally exist for a reason.

In that regard, it is 2024.
We also have lived through the "Everyone gets a trophy" entitled mentality.

To be crystal clear, it wasn't GenY&Z handing out those trophies. Their parental generations own that. Nonetheless, the trophies were garnered regardless of achievement, which renders the skit below true enough of Millennials (and Zoomers to a lesser extent) to carry humor.

Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27309 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:18 am to
I will wait until Trump chimes in, if that is okay?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:20 am to
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This is why I don't hate private sector unions


Journeyman trades, I agree. Anything else, and the union becomes a barrier to the worker.

Unions hate merit of any type.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24204 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:39 am to
I run a small software shop of about 30 employees. I have had direct to hire HB1 employees before. I hated it. For some reasons the Indians love the fact that they think they can hold you over a barrel on a project. I outsource mine now throw a 3rd party. If the worker sucks or can’t do the work they get replaced with no fus.
15 years ago we’re 100 American employed. The American market for developers in country just got to be ridiculous. Kids. Coming out of college with zero experience wanted 80-90K per year. In SELA that just wasn’t going to happen in many cases. They saw jobs in Cali, Dallas etc paying that much and thought they should get it here. Got tired of it and just went the outsource route,
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68125 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:45 am to
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2 highly skilled foreign workers

I keep seeing this term. If it's grunt work that can be done for $20k, does it really require that much skill?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97745 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:52 am to
This was part of the deal to get their support

I suggest hard maga stops with the melt about some engineers

But maybe someone will answer this. How much more does American IT engineers get paid vs these .1% India MIT engineers?

Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18788 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:55 am to
I'm witnessing an interesting phenomenon. The anti-MAGA crowd, who always want to criticize anyone in Trump's orbit, are actually becoming more "America First" and turning MAGA. It's amazing.

Thank you for the entertainment
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97745 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:56 am to
they are also now on team loomer
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18788 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:58 am to
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they are also now on team loomer


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298319 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:58 am to
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Wouldn't it be better to have them here paying taxes and contributing to our economy?


Not bringing in foreign talent is suicide.

Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7707 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:01 am to
This has been a part of my point the whole time buts been done prior to COVID, and COVID made it even easier. No need to import them here other than to have them take over cities like in TX. TX seems to have become New New Delhi
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18788 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:07 am to
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Not bringing in foreign talent is suicide.


America First! I'm here for that brother
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97745 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:09 am to
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America First! I'm here for that brother


Roger getting caught was an easy one to predict
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