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Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?

Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:40 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:40 am
People love bringing up the holocaust when discussing fascism. Yet I bet 90% (at least) of the American general public couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the Holodomor. Or the gulag archipelago. Or the great purge. Or the various Chinese killings. Or any of the other various communist regime killings in any of the other various failed communist states.

There’s entire sections in every history textbook in schools dedicated to fascism and the holocaust. Yet, it wasn’t until after I was done with school and started picking up history books on my own that I learned of those things (Holodomor etc)

Yeah, the communists fought on our side in WWII, but why should they get a pass on the numerous genocides they took part in?
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:41 am to
Only one genocide matters baw
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:42 am to
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Yeah, the communists fought on our side in WWII, but why should they get a pass on the numerous genocides they took part in?



Smart people don't give communists/marxists/socialists a pass. Only retarded left wing idiots who don't know the results of these failed ideologists want to see it implemented in America because "it's (D)ifferent" here.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:43 am to
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

They shouldn't be excused but this is probably the reason they have been.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:51 am to
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Yet I bet 90% (at least) of the American general public couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the Holodomor.


The Germans lost soldiers saw the camps and survivors were free to tell their stories across the world. These communist cullings were successful, but not many survived, and the regimes continued.
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to
Probably because the Holocaust surrounded a pretty major war.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26531 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to
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People love bringing up the holocaust when discussing fascism. Yet I bet 90% (at least) of the American general public couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the Holodomor. Or the gulag archipelago. Or the great purge. Or the various Chinese killings. Or any of the other various communist regime killings in any of the other various failed communist states.

There’s entire sections in every history textbook in schools dedicated to fascism and the holocaust. Yet, it wasn’t until after I was done with school and started picking up history books on my own that I learned of those things (Holodomor etc)

Yeah, the communists fought on our side in WWII, but why should they get a pass on the numerous genocides they took part in?


The engineers of the communist/socialist genocides retained power after World War II, contrary to Germany. There's the pass.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to
Also, it's pretty rich when the left tries to accuse the right of fascism, given the actions of ANTIFA, the expose' of government colluding with private businesses and corporations to suppress conservative voices. That is the hallmark of fascism.

I don't see many corporations standing up against the woke agenda promoted by the left, do you?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:57 am to
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Also, it's pretty rich when the left tries to accuse the right of fascism, given the actions of ANTIFA, the expose' of government colluding with private businesses and corporations to suppress conservative voices. That is the hallmark of fascism.


I think it's funny when the left tries to paint Nazis as right wing extremists when its full name is National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to
There's a board for this right wing circle jerking.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15820 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to
Socialism and Communism should be spoken of the same way Nazism is. Instead, we actually have elected officials subscribing to, advocating for, and practicing these ideologies. It's completely idiotic.
Posted by Coldcushcush
Member since Jul 2022
172 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:00 am to
i don't think they get a pass. even if they do, that in no way diminishes the horror of the holocaust
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:01 am to
Another example of Communism and the denial of the Holodomor. The Ukrainians were resisting, the massive collectivization of arable land by the regime of the USSR.

The Kulaks, basically the wealthier farmers, were suppose to be the targets of collectivization, however the USSR’s definition of who was Kulak vague, thus instead of hitting the small and rich portion of the Ukrainian population it affected more than 70% of all farmers. Ukraine was a grain producer for the rest of the USSR and there was a quota they had to meet. Stalin decided to punish those who were not able to meet to meet the quota by seizing their seed grain.

In 1932 there was virtually no seed grain left and the Ukrainian local government asked Stalin for grain assistance. Moreover, Ukraine asked the Red Cross for help and while Stalin initially admitted that there was a large famine in the works, Stalin still demanded the wheat to be collected and relocated to the rest of the USSR. Stalin was actively trying to punish Ukrainians for they refusal to cooperate with collectivization, the massive protests in 1930s or he didn’t care that millions would eventually die horrible deaths.

Communism is truly fricking evil.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:03 am to
The Nazi victims had greater status and controlled the media.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:05 am to
And the Spanish Civil War, where their actions were borderline demonic.

We all know why it’s not discussed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:05 am to
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Communism is truly fricking evil.


Its punitive. The nerds and the fat kids get together in a big mob and seek revenge on those whom they are jealous of.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79235 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:09 am to
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There's a board for this right wing circle jerking.



^ Here's your answer OP

Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:12 am to
:TheJewsDidThisRonaldogif:


:He’sRightYouKnowMorganFreemangif:
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:13 am to
quote:

There's a board for this right wing circle jerking.


Youre supporting the OPs point very well.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78103 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:14 am to
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Only one genocide matters baw
and thats the Gods honest truth!
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