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Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:40 am
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13People love bringing up the holocaust when discussing fascism. Yet I bet 90% (at least) of the American general public couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the Holodomor. Or the gulag archipelago. Or the great purge. Or the various Chinese killings. Or any of the other various communist regime killings in any of the other various failed communist states.
There’s entire sections in every history textbook in schools dedicated to fascism and the holocaust. Yet, it wasn’t until after I was done with school and started picking up history books on my own that I learned of those things (Holodomor etc)
Yeah, the communists fought on our side in WWII, but why should they get a pass on the numerous genocides they took part in?
There’s entire sections in every history textbook in schools dedicated to fascism and the holocaust. Yet, it wasn’t until after I was done with school and started picking up history books on my own that I learned of those things (Holodomor etc)
Yeah, the communists fought on our side in WWII, but why should they get a pass on the numerous genocides they took part in?
This post was edited on 2/3 at 10:42 am
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by el Gaucho 
on 2/3/23 at 10:41 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:41 am to grizzlylongcutOnly one genocide matters baw
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by BugAC 
on 2/3/23 at 10:42 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:42 am to grizzlylongcutquote:
Yeah, the communists fought on our side in WWII, but why should they get a pass on the numerous genocides they took part in?
Smart people don't give communists/marxists/socialists a pass. Only retarded left wing idiots who don't know the results of these failed ideologists want to see it implemented in America because "it's (D)ifferent" here.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by JetsetNuggs 
on 2/3/23 at 10:43 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:43 am to grizzlylongcut"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
They shouldn't be excused but this is probably the reason they have been.
They shouldn't be excused but this is probably the reason they have been.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by Dizz on 2/3/23 at 10:51 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:51 am to grizzlylongcutquote:
Yet I bet 90% (at least) of the American general public couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the Holodomor.
The Germans lost soldiers saw the camps and survivors were free to tell their stories across the world. These communist cullings were successful, but not many survived, and the regimes continued.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by TomJoadGhost 
on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to grizzlylongcutProbably because the Holocaust surrounded a pretty major war.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by Tornado Alley 
on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to grizzlylongcutquote:
People love bringing up the holocaust when discussing fascism. Yet I bet 90% (at least) of the American general public couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the Holodomor. Or the gulag archipelago. Or the great purge. Or the various Chinese killings. Or any of the other various communist regime killings in any of the other various failed communist states.
There’s entire sections in every history textbook in schools dedicated to fascism and the holocaust. Yet, it wasn’t until after I was done with school and started picking up history books on my own that I learned of those things (Holodomor etc)
Yeah, the communists fought on our side in WWII, but why should they get a pass on the numerous genocides they took part in?
The engineers of the communist/socialist genocides retained power after World War II, contrary to Germany. There's the pass.
This post was edited on 2/3 at 10:55 am
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by BugAC on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:53 am to grizzlylongcutAlso, it's pretty rich when the left tries to accuse the right of fascism, given the actions of ANTIFA, the expose' of government colluding with private businesses and corporations to suppress conservative voices. That is the hallmark of fascism.
I don't see many corporations standing up against the woke agenda promoted by the left, do you?
I don't see many corporations standing up against the woke agenda promoted by the left, do you?
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Also, it's pretty rich when the left tries to accuse the right of fascism, given the actions of ANTIFA, the expose' of government colluding with private businesses and corporations to suppress conservative voices. That is the hallmark of fascism.
I think it's funny when the left tries to paint Nazis as right wing extremists when its full name is National Socialist German Workers' Party.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by WaltTeevens 
on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to VADawg
on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to VADawgThere's a board for this right wing circle jerking.
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re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by coolpapaboze 
on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to grizzlylongcutSocialism and Communism should be spoken of the same way Nazism is. Instead, we actually have elected officials subscribing to, advocating for, and practicing these ideologies. It's completely idiotic.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by Coldcushcush on 2/3/23 at 11:00 am to grizzlylongcut
i don't think they get a pass. even if they do, that in no way diminishes the horror of the holocaust
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by Breauxsif on 2/3/23 at 11:01 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 11:01 am to grizzlylongcutAnother example of Communism and the denial of the Holodomor. The Ukrainians were resisting, the massive collectivization of arable land by the regime of the USSR.
The Kulaks, basically the wealthier farmers, were suppose to be the targets of collectivization, however the USSR’s definition of who was Kulak vague, thus instead of hitting the small and rich portion of the Ukrainian population it affected more than 70% of all farmers. Ukraine was a grain producer for the rest of the USSR and there was a quota they had to meet. Stalin decided to punish those who were not able to meet to meet the quota by seizing their seed grain.
In 1932 there was virtually no seed grain left and the Ukrainian local government asked Stalin for grain assistance. Moreover, Ukraine asked the Red Cross for help and while Stalin initially admitted that there was a large famine in the works, Stalin still demanded the wheat to be collected and relocated to the rest of the USSR. Stalin was actively trying to punish Ukrainians for they refusal to cooperate with collectivization, the massive protests in 1930s or he didn’t care that millions would eventually die horrible deaths.
Communism is truly fricking evil.
The Kulaks, basically the wealthier farmers, were suppose to be the targets of collectivization, however the USSR’s definition of who was Kulak vague, thus instead of hitting the small and rich portion of the Ukrainian population it affected more than 70% of all farmers. Ukraine was a grain producer for the rest of the USSR and there was a quota they had to meet. Stalin decided to punish those who were not able to meet to meet the quota by seizing their seed grain.
In 1932 there was virtually no seed grain left and the Ukrainian local government asked Stalin for grain assistance. Moreover, Ukraine asked the Red Cross for help and while Stalin initially admitted that there was a large famine in the works, Stalin still demanded the wheat to be collected and relocated to the rest of the USSR. Stalin was actively trying to punish Ukrainians for they refusal to cooperate with collectivization, the massive protests in 1930s or he didn’t care that millions would eventually die horrible deaths.
Communism is truly fricking evil.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 2/3/23 at 11:03 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 11:03 am to grizzlylongcutThe Nazi victims had greater status and controlled the media.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by Earnest_P on 2/3/23 at 11:05 am to grizzlylongcut
And the Spanish Civil War, where their actions were borderline demonic.
We all know why it’s not discussed.
We all know why it’s not discussed.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 2/3/23 at 11:05 am to Breauxsif
on 2/3/23 at 11:05 am to Breauxsifquote:
Communism is truly fricking evil.
Its punitive. The nerds and the fat kids get together in a big mob and seek revenge on those whom they are jealous of.
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by Pettifogger 
on 2/3/23 at 11:09 am to WaltTeevens
on 2/3/23 at 11:09 am to WaltTeevensquote:
There's a board for this right wing circle jerking.
^ Here's your answer OP
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by MLSter on 2/3/23 at 11:12 am to grizzlylongcut
on 2/3/23 at 11:12 am to grizzlylongcut:TheJewsDidThisRonaldogif:
:He’sRightYouKnowMorganFreemangif:
:He’sRightYouKnowMorganFreemangif:
re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 2/3/23 at 11:13 am to WaltTeevens
on 2/3/23 at 11:13 am to WaltTeevensquote:
There's a board for this right wing circle jerking.
Youre supporting the OPs point very well.
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